Keep it up Pene, and I will start to post every single PM and email that you and Faye have ever sent me over the last year and a half or better.
I have only one user name here and this is it. You don't believe me, ask the mod. You see, I don't pretend to be someone's friend when I am not...unlike you, apparently. Tracy
CJK, I am just getting very sick and tired of this "person" accusing me of various identities when I have only ever posted under my kennel name.
Oh and BTW, Pene, my POS pet from the Redyre Choice litter just went WD for 2 more points, this morning at the Peace Arch Working and Herding Specialty at Tradex, to earn his Canadian Champion title. This, after going WD, BOW, BOB, and on to Group 4th at the last Cloverdale show. Where are your spectacular show dogs?
Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Keep it up Pene, and I will start to post every single PM and email that you and Faye have ever sent me over the last year and a half or better.
I have only one user name here and this is it. You don't believe me, ask the mod. You see, I don't pretend to be someone's friend when I am not...unlike you, apparently.
Tracy
BMR: I did not say this was you who posted my name, but you gave it out. At least that part of it, or you got it from the handouts from the ABC forums from Deep.. and possibly passed it on.
This MMM is part of your group and I don't appreciate my friends' website being posted trying to find out who I am.
You don't know why I did what you "think" I did, but it worked and it's over. I cannot post anymore of that issue. You are welcome to email me, you know my addy.
Don't judge so quickly! All of you did the same thing..judged me, you weren't intelligent enough to see the reasoning behind it!
Regarless,I have all the emails too..so what??? What good will posting them do you?
The job got done, I had to do it my way! Take it or leave it!
When did I say your dog was a POS??? Good for you and your dog.
Jo
ETA: btw..don't threaten me again! When you have to come to Canadian shows to get your dog titled, it speaks volumes. Why don't you stay in Washington and show that Rottie AKC???
I'll see you at the show/Tradex!!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: CJK, I am just getting very sick and tired of this "person" accusing me of various identities when I have only ever posted under my kennel name.
Oh and BTW, Pene, my POS pet from the Redyre Choice litter just went WD for 2 more points, this morning at the Peace Arch Working and Herding Specialty at Tradex, to earn his Canadian Champion title. This, after going WD, BOW, BOB, and on to Group 4th at the last Cloverdale show. Where are your spectacular show dogs?
Tradex, just started today..what makes you think I'm not going?? And with a male to show!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Keep it up Pene, and I will start to post every single PM and email that you and Faye have ever sent me over the last year and a half or better. **********************************************
I have only one user name here and this is it. You don't believe me, ask the mod. Tracy
No all of you login under TH *************************************
"You see, I don't pretend to be someone's friend when I am not...unlike you, apparently.
*** (be more specific!)*** This I have to hear!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Im going to jump in just to say a few things, believe them or not, I really don't care.
Deep DID NOT pass out ANY information regarding you, Jo, on ABC...at least NOT TO ME. I don't really recall you being of any importance on that board, but maybe I forgot since I didnt care and I'm not a stalker? Either way, I recall nothing regarding you on that board....certainly not your name.
Matter of fact, I have never received any information, privately or otherwise, regarding anyone from PLuba, or BBC or anywhere, in reference to their private information, from Deep. I have received LOTS of information regarding Vac, but NOT from Deep. Several other sources keep up with her, it seems.
BMR has NEVER, to my knowledge, posted under a troll name, and is NOT one to mince words. Just because she has a dog from RR does not mean she IS RR, nor that she is controlled by RR, or even thinks like RR. I have found BMR to be a very honest, outspoken person and I appreciate that. And if someone, like Jo, wants to accuse her of things she hasnt done, then I don't blame her for threatening to post PM's. When you send a PM, you do so realizing that can happen, and if you dont' know that, get off the internet. Certainly if you are going to accuse someone of something they didnt do,while saying soething different in PM's, you better prepare to be outed for your two-face-ness.
Finally, to try to insult someone for finishing their dog in Canada, a dog who is ALSO pointed in the US, when you have done neither...well, welcome to ratladyland. How hypocritical. It may be easier to finish a dog in Canada than in the US,but many plan to do both. Plus, if you LIVE in Canada, that seems to me to be the title you would seek first,and if yiou can get a US Ch, thats great, too. I consider a Can. Ch. icing on the cake, but I live in the USA.
So I guess in some instances, I think it is ok to post PM's. I refuse to protect liars, or stalkers, or both. In that instance, its on, no holds barred.
MsB
PS....BMR, CONGRATS on Ruger's wins! Super job!
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Originally posted by MsBehave: Im going to jump in just to say a few things, believe them or not, I really don't care.
Deep DID NOT pass out ANY information regarding you, Jo, on ABC...at least NOT TO ME. I don't really recall you being of any importance on that board, but maybe I forgot since I didnt care and I'm not a stalker? Either way, I recall nothing regarding you on that board....certainly not your name.
Matter of fact, I have never received any information, privately or otherwise, regarding anyone from PLuba, or BBC or anywhere, in reference to their private information, from Deep. I have received LOTS of information regarding Vac, but NOT from Deep. Several other sources keep up with her, it seems.
BMR has NEVER, to my knowledge, posted under a troll name, and is NOT one to mince words. Just because she has a dog from RR does not mean she IS RR, nor that she is controlled by RR, or even thinks like RR. I have found BMR to be a very honest, outspoken person and I appreciate that. And if someone, like Jo, wants to accuse her of things she hasnt done, then I don't blame her for threatening to post PM's. When you send a PM, you do so realizing that can happen, and if you dont' know that, get off the internet. Certainly if you are going to accuse someone of something they didnt do,while saying soething different in PM's, you better prepare to be outed for your two-face-ness.
Finally, to try to insult someone for finishing their dog in Canada, a dog who is ALSO pointed in the US, when you have done neither...well, welcome to ratladyland. How hypocritical. It may be easier to finish a dog in Canada than in the US,but many plan to do both. Plus, if you LIVE in Canada, that seems to me to be the title you would seek first,and if yiou can get a US Ch, thats great, too. I consider a Can. Ch. icing on the cake, but I live in the USA.
So I guess in some instances, I think it is ok to post PM's. I refuse to protect liars, or stalkers, or both. In that instance, its on, no holds barred.
MsB
PS....BMR, CONGRATS on Ruger's wins! Super job!
You are just trying to get BMR to post the Pm's
If you feel I'm a liar or a stalker, then so be it. Unless BMR fills you in on what this is all about, or already has...then you won't find out from me.
What about TH.."stalker" "troll"..MMM another one..so I'm supposed to sit back and just take it?
Well, I apologize BMR, to my knowledge you dog did not have any US points..is it titled in the USA? MsB, you can answer for BMR, I'm fine with that..
clicky clicky!!!
I'm leaving now for Tradex! You have a good day !
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
BMR:...I'm the one that attacked you..take it out on me..As nutty as Faye can be, she did not bring up your name..Why post her PM's and emails???
You, BMR started all this with your hatred for a certain person. I did the right thing and you don't like it.
MsB .. You're a trouble maker! Gossip, and more gossip..that's what you live for. Unfortunately, the Pm's and emails are not what worth reading! Have at it!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by MsBehave: Im going to jump in just to say a few things, believe them or not, I really don't care.
Deep DID NOT pass out ANY information regarding you, Jo, on ABC...at least NOT TO ME. I don't really recall you being of any importance on that board, but maybe I forgot since I didnt care and I'm not a stalker? Either way, I recall nothing regarding you on that board....certainly not your name.
Matter of fact, I have never received any information, privately or otherwise, regarding anyone from PLuba, or BBC or anywhere, in reference to their private information, from Deep. I have received LOTS of information regarding Vac, but NOT from Deep. Several other sources keep up with her, it seems.
BMR has NEVER, to my knowledge, posted under a troll name, and is NOT one to mince words. Just because she has a dog from RR does not mean she IS RR, nor that she is controlled by RR, or even thinks like RR. I have found BMR to be a very honest, outspoken person and I appreciate that. And if someone, like Jo, wants to accuse her of things she hasnt done, then I don't blame her for threatening to post PM's. When you send a PM, you do so realizing that can happen, and if you dont' know that, get off the internet. Certainly if you are going to accuse someone of something they didnt do,while saying soething different in PM's, you better prepare to be outed for your two-face-ness.
Finally, to try to insult someone for finishing their dog in Canada, a dog who is ALSO pointed in the US, when you have done neither...well, welcome to ratladyland. How hypocritical. It may be easier to finish a dog in Canada than in the US,but many plan to do both. Plus, if you LIVE in Canada, that seems to me to be the title you would seek first,and if yiou can get a US Ch, thats great, too. I consider a Can. Ch. icing on the cake, but I live in the USA.
So I guess in some instances, I think it is ok to post PM's. I refuse to protect liars, or stalkers, or both. In that instance, its on, no holds barred.
MsB
PS....BMR, CONGRATS on Ruger's wins! Super job!
You are just trying to get BMR to post the Pm's
If you feel I'm a liar or a stalker, then so be it. Unless BMR fills you in on what this is all about, or already has...then you won't find out from me.
What about TH.."stalker" "troll"..MMM another one..so I'm supposed to sit back and just take it?
Well, I apologize BMR, to my knowledge you dog did not have any US points..is it titled in the USA? MsB, you can answer for BMR, I'm fine with that..
clicky clicky!!!
I'm leaving now for Tradex! You have a good day !
Actually, Jo, I was not referring to you as a stalker...and I don't know if you are a liar, so much as misinformed by the blanket statements you make as fact...
I DO NOT CARE if BMR posts your PM's or not, trust me on that one. I DO NOT CARE. Post them, don't post them, fight, don't fight, whatever. But I am the type that WILL say when I know something is not true, at least from my point of view. I was on those forums you mention. I have watched you blame Deep for being the root of all evil when honestly, there are much bigger "fish to fry" in that group...Deep may have made some mistakes and said some things that mortify me, but I think she learned from that and I am just trying to point out that she is blamed for every troll issue when in actuallity, the things she did that were not very nice, she did under her own name. Myself and a couple of others rapidly figured out after the "leaks" and backstabbing who we think was involved in trolling and stalking and leaking. Just our opinions, and we could be wrong. You don't see us hammering these people on a daily basis...honestly, we cannot be sure, so it would be wrong to assume. We can only discuss our "indicators" amongst ourselves and call it good...thought there have been some subtle or not-so-subtle hints thrown in for good measure. Oh, now Im going to be called TH since I spoke in "we" and "our". Whatever. I still say TH is one person and I feel confident I know who that person is. Lots of people do. Grow some sack and just post under your name. Post something worthwhile along with your insults.
You learn a lot about people when you just sit back and watch them attack, and kiss butt, and attack, and start trouble, and attack, and act innocent. Had to leave those boards. I'd just rather be on this board where you know what to expect...
Honestly, Jo, the only beef I have with you is that you insist you know who these trolls are, then call them fifty different people. I don't think it is fair to accuse people like BMR who I feel would just say what she wanted to say, as she has always done.
I am pretty sure that Ruger is AKC pointed. BMR and I are not friends and do not stay in touch but I think that is true. I could be wrong and I dont want to assume.
Also, I want to clarify, just because I am on a forum that is moderated, and private, does not mean that I am bestest friends with the people on that board. Honestly, I'd say that at most, I am good aquaintances with most of them, and I respect what they do in dogs and wanted to share in their triumphs and defeats...and to have others to share in mine and understand our joy and frustration. Well, duh...I can do that on the phone or IM with my actual friends and peers. So I decided I can share what I want to share on Pluba, and the rest I have the ability to share privately with people who matter to me. There were less than a handful of people on those boards that I considered true IRL friends. I believe three, hope I'm not missing anyone. NONE of them have been involved in any BS on these boards. ALL have the balls to call it as they see it and I trust them with 100% certainty.
Jo, seriously, I wish you the best. As far as I know, you are not one I would consider a troll or a stalker, but what do I know. The only thing I am fairly confident about is that you have falsely accused people of doing things they simply, in my opinion, have not done. Again, am I 100% sure Im right? No, but I'd rather err on the side of good manners than to accuse and just try to cause trouble.
MsB
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Thanks MsBehave. Yes, Ruger IS AKC pointed. I do live in the US, but I am on the Washington/Canadian border. There are limited shows here in Washington that I am able to get to without taking time off work or spending too much money. I am entered in the upcoming Monroe, Wa show and it is looking like a major in bitches.
So Pene, are you entered in that show, seeing how it is only 2 hour from your house and it is an AKC show? And why would I not enter the Canadian shows that are within 10 min of my house? The CKC holds dogs shows almost every month within driving distance from my house. Why would I not take advantage of that? You haven't shown in either CKC or AKC, that I know of, and you're critizising me?
As far as the emails and PM's, why would you take that as a threat unless you had something to hide? I didn't have to share your information with anyone, they already knew who you were, although I may have. You never know. I told you in a recent email that I did not know who this "Truths Here" person is and I do not know who this "MMM" person is, but I would appreciate it if you would quit making false statements in regard to me and my dogs.
I have not posted here since I posted those photos of the house where Vaccaro lived and yet you have accused me of multiple user names. Yes, I come here and read, I find it very entertaining, but I am getting tired of your false accusations and put downs of my dog. Just for the record, not only is Ruger a Canadian Ch. at the age of 14 months, he is AKC ptd., has his Herding Instict Certification on sheep, is CERF-normal, OFA heart-normal, OFA prelim hips-EXCELLENT, and OFA prelim elbows-NORMAL. I guess, I have nothing to brag about, according to you.
I am done with this, but you and Faye keep spinning your misinformation about things you know nothing about and your deceptions so that you two can continue to breed your untitled, un-health tested dogs and I will continue to read and be entertained. The only difference between you two and Vaccaro is that your dogs are registered, but the rest of your breeding practices seem to be identical. You know it is one thing to make mistakes when you don't know any better, we have all made mistakes, but you three have been educated and DO know better. Sad, really.
Also, having a great friend in remote Wa state, I can back up what BMR states regarding shows and distance. In Wa and Mt, shows are much farther away and less frequent.
I am fortunate to have many, many shows within two hours and many many more w/i four hours...I love that. But many of my friends have to travel hours to the nearest show and have to work their behinds off to get their dogs finished simply due to the distance and frequency of shows in their area.
That said, being smack dab in the middle of the US means it is unlikely I will have a Can Ch anytime soon, with no plans to do so myself. Its just not feasible to do so monetarily or time-wise.
MsB
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Originally posted by Josephine: So the real CJK appears!
I don't have time for this today..later
BMR:...I'm the one that attacked you..take it out on me..As nutty as Faye can be, she did not bring up your name..Why post her PM's and emails???
You, BMR started all this with your hatred for a certain person. I did the right thing and you don't like it.
MsB .. You're a trouble maker! Gossip, and more gossip..that's what you live for. Unfortunately, the Pm's and emails are not what worth reading! Have at it!
I really dont understand why you keep trying to protect Faye.
