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The only idea I have is to get one of those automatic kind of litter boxes. Shoot, I can't think of what they are called right now, but they have something that automatically does the litter...does anyone know what these are called? I hope somebody does or maybe you can figure out what i'm talking about. Anyway, it keeps the litter box just like you cleaned it somehow...
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Litter Maid I think... Every single time he poops in it, scoop it out afterwards. Does he have diarrhea at all? The reason that he's not going in his box, or missing, may be a parasite or illness. Has he been to the vet recently and had a fecal done? My kitty used to poop under the crib and in the bathtub, and of course, but very rarely, in the litter box. Come to find out that he had roundworms (from the kitten) and they were causing him to have excessive diarrhea. He also ingested a giant hairball (also from the kitten), but that's a different story, but at the same time. The point is, if you haven't gotten a fecal done yet, get one. In the meantime, just obsessively clean his litter box. You can use a bit of that litter freshener they sell at walmart to make it seem a bit cleaner to kitty. I don't understand how people can leave their litterboxes for a week without scooping the poop. After box my kitties go potty in theirs, the whole house stinks, so I obsessively clean it. Call me a freak but my house smells good. 
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| Posts: 371 | Location (City, State): Havelock, NC | Registered: Sat April 26 2003 |    |
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Hi Bar B. I hate to say this, but at 9 years, he might never change.
Our Siamese, CryBaby, was put outside many years ago for defecating and urinating everywhere in our home. We had him from a tiny kitten. While still a kitten, we had him neutered and declawed. For a couple of years there were no problems. Then one day he began defecating anywhere except the litter box. I had him checked by our vet, but he was given a clean bill of health. Nothing had changed about the litter or box, and we use liners. We tried everything. Neither our vet nor we could figure out why he began this.
We experimented, tolerated and cleaned as long as we could. But, when you have an adult cat that defecates on your sofas, pillows, beds, behind the dryer, etc; you reach your limits quickly. Eventually, we put him outside completely. I know that is terrible. But, he has been outside for years and is now 11 years old and completely healthy. He never leaves the yard and has access to ledges, low limbs, garage, etc. He can also scale a brick wall several feet up - just like climbing a tree.
I grew up with cats inside the home. They have always been a part of our lives. He is the first one that has ever had this problem. We do feel that he has some mental impairments. He has never acted quite like other cats. There are days when he rubs all over us and other days when he runs and hides - like he doesn't know who we are. Sometimes, we just call him CB for CryBaby or CRAZYBaby.
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Ahhh, that's where the problem lies. I was unaware that he was declawed. I am strongly against it, but I won't burn you since you made the choice. Hopefully you researched or had your vet tell you what the procedure was before you went through with it. Can I ask how old Tinker was when he was declawed? One of the repercussions of getting a cat declawed is urinating/defecating outside of the litterbox. Since this may be the problem, Rayna is right, he may never change. By no means it's not your fault, you didn't know that it would happen, but you can make it more comfortable for him (as it could be the reason he won't use the box, perhaps it's painful on his little kitty paws), try using a fine sand in his box. I've heard this works great on declawed cats. I do want to give you a site or two explaining what the process was, and what happens after a kitty gets declawed, which may explain why Raynas kitty acts crazy, since he is also declawed. Here are a few links: The Truth About DeclawingDeclaw SitePictures of DeclawingThe AftermathMore About the Repercussions
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| Posts: 371 | Location (City, State): Havelock, NC | Registered: Sat April 26 2003 |    |
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DF, you might be right. But, in CryBaby's case, I don't think the declawing caused his problem. He was declawed at about 7 or 8 weeks along with his neutering. For over 2 years he used the litter box like any other cat.
I understand about the declawing. I did the research and even understand the controversy. But, we have owned several declawed cats. We have never had a problem. I do wonder if problems occur when a cat is declawed at an older age.
Due to a little "play" in our front door frame, CryBaby can grip the brass kickplate with his "toes" and move the door to make it sound like someone is knocking at the door. He climbs trees, and goes STRAIGHT up the brick walls of the house and garage. I think his declawing at such a young age made him think it is natural not to have claws.
Bar B, if the litter is the problem - hurting his paws, try shredded newspaper. If you have a shredder, it won't be much difficulty at all. The soft newsprint won't hurt his feet.
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I just wanted to add some more information on declawing - based on personal experience.
I have had two cats declawed, the others were already declawed when they joined our family. The two that I had declawed were tiny kittens. One came back the same day and one stayed overnight. Neither one ever wore any type of bandage like those in the pictures. Neither one ever walked gingerly or strangely - even when they first got home. I was very thorough with the shredded paper in the litter boxes, cleanliness of my floors, and administering the antibiotics.
Declawing is also being done by laser, at least in our area.
I am not advocating declawing. I know that it is painful and considered to be a form of mutilation. But, one of the reasons for adopting some of the older cats in our family was due to the fact that they were already declawed. We love cats and enjoy letting them have the run of the house. But, I have too much money invested in our home and furnishings to risk destruction, which can come quickly from clawing.
RJ, our last adoption, can scale our 7 foot livingroom cabinets. Then, he sits haughtily over us lowly beings. He was completely declawed by his previous owner. At 7 years of age, he probably would not have lasted at the shelter. His declawing was one of the factors in our adoption.
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