Wow what an ugly dog. Show quality my ***. That dog came from another back yard breeder. I know the person she got that dog from. He isn't a judge and I guess she fell hard for his lies. Funny thing is that she did the same to people now she got an ugly quality dog. I was going to buy from the guy the same exact dog. I did my research and still looking for a decent breeder.
She in fact sells to pet store and The Seahorse is one of them but don't forget Petland. Anyone need the numbers? I also was going to buy from her but went to her house and said no way in hell. My friend did buy and felt sorry for the dog and when we left she said it stuck like a pig pen. She got a bad quality dog with only one testicle. Jen I totally believe what you have to say. When we left there our clothes reeked from the filth. I do feel sorry for those kids she had. The whole time a baby was screaming its head off and she never once got up to check on it but worried if she was going to sell a dog. My friend had to have the dog neutered since they said it can cause cancer and it was most likely passed on by her dogs maybe the male had one testicle is what her vet said. She told us also that she sold to pet stores and that is why my friend bought one. I guess now that I saw all these post that my friend my be regretting that decision since she had a few problems with the pup so far. We will see about the show in March and see them laugh at her. Me and my friend will go and tell the people there not to buy a pup from her and take my friends dogs health records and the dogs akc papers for proof.

When searching for a dog the potential buyer must be aware that this is a "buyer beware" market. The breeder may or may not care about producing healthy, temperamentally stable dogs. The breeder may or may not care about conducting business honestly. The consumer protection laws of each state and the local animal control statutes remain the consumer's only protection if one deals with an unscrupulous breeder.
There is no other agent overseeing the conduct and business practices of breeders.

And to mention : While the popular portrait of a breeder is someone who cares about the dogs brought into the world by his or her efforts and placing them in responsible homes, there is pressure on the ambitious breeder to keep producing more show-quality dogs. This can result in overbreeding, which triggers a cascade of disasters: poor quality facilities, poor socialization, poor health assessment, poor care, and desperate schemes to get rid of the unwanted puppies.

I think you are right about BHL.

I'm just giving my opinion on breeding, breeders and the market as I know of it since on this BBC.

And I think BHL uses her "club and Reg." to sell dogs more than anything.

And regardless who is buying, young man, old lady, breeder, the person "selling" should be the honest one. Not to many people out there taking a fancy to Bassets even know what and what not to look for in a pup or dog.

Not everyone educates them selves on breeds in general. Alot of buyers go by how cute the pup/size and maintenance of the dog.

This is where I think the breeders should "get to know" the buyer. Not just call them "stupid" and "not-able" to have a pup. But educate them on the breed in question. That's where breeders are making a mistake ... giving the benefit of the doubt and "selling on a whim".

And if you look at your local animal shelter ... there is alot of purebreds in there. Some are bred out the wazoooo and of course the mutts.

This is displaying to me ( Melissa ) that there is issues in the community of "reputable breeders and mills".

And this is just my opinion. And I'm someone looking for FREE/CHEAP.

Dogs and people are like people and horses .. you can't put a novice on a green horse, but you can give the green horse to the novice and he'll ride.

Why is this ... I'll tell you ... because the novice will take anything given to prove himself worthy.

And this is what the shelters need. "Green people" is what saves the lives of all those "waiting to be killed" dogs in there.

So, everyone needs to get along, and everyone need to educate one another. Instead of all the bickering. What is bickering going to do to all the hungry/starving/neglected dogs out there? Hummmmmmm .... ?

Than't right nothing.

Now, back to my original point. ****** Do not assume that membership or status in a national breed club or any other dog-related organization is an assurance of ethical business conduct.

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Originally posted by Redyre Rottiess:

That is not a protrait of any real breeder. A real breeder puts nothing above the well fare of the breed collective, nor their personal dogs' care and well being.

True breeders will not be swayed from their goal of improvement, and breed only for that goal. Sometimes more is NOT better, and a good breeder recognizes that as well.

People who end up slaves to the market, and get lax on breeding criteria and husbandry were never REAL breeders to start with.

BHL has clearly indicated where she falls in. I fear for the health and well being of her children.

I think "true breeders" are in the making for the "once was" novice.

How can someone be a "true breeder" over night? Or have the "knowledge" of breeding marked in stone?

Everyone started somewhere and I'm sure of this. And if they didn't make mistakes along the way .. then there is no real reputation of a "true breeder". Or one that makes mistakes anyhows. Then all breeds would be perfecting them selves. Is anyone following me?

This is what I think : All breeders have an agenda for breeding: it may be to produce quality dogs and place them in caring homes, or it may be a scheme for self-promotion within the fancier community.

And BHL is the "self-promoting" breeder with no goal of "quality" from what I read here on BBC.

Any comments?

Do you live in Pa? I think I know you. Your the horse lady? Do you own that bar Dawgy's or something like that?

Ya, it's me. Don't tell anyone. lol

Who are you? PT me.

I'm sorry, but when it comes to breeding there is no "grey area". Either you are a respectable, RESPONSIBLE breeder, or you are someone like BHL, a low-life backyard breeder who is money hungry and in it only to pay your bills.

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I think "true breeders" are in the making for the "once was" novice.

I think that this is a statement by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

Regardless if you have been breeding since yesterday, or for 34 years it all begins with education. Educate yourself on your breed, on the qualities of your breed, on the possible medical conditions of your breed, and most of all, how to be a RESPONSIBLE breeder.

"I think that this is a statement by someone who has no idea what they are talking about."

And welcome to the non-breeders.

Now is this how you treat your buyers? Do you think your buyers have to know what you know?

Or are you going to be a reputable breeder and educate me without prejudice?

This is what gives me those statements.

Now don't hate me ... just educate me in a reputable manner.

Well whatever the case that dog isn't show quality and yes she does sell to people saying that the dad was from top show lines. Well to me his eyes looked quite infected like cherry eyes. I have see n a pic of him on puppyfind and it says he will be neutered. Well my friend emailed her and she said that we would have to pay out of our pocket to neuter him if we wanted if not we can use him for breeding. Which one is it? I guess if she can pawn him off then he is neutered or not depending on what you want to buy. I find this quite disgusting. I am just glad I didn't have the puppy bug bite me and buy from her unlike my friend. I would of been in all the others people's shoes on here and other sites that have posted about her.

if your friend bought from me what is her name? who were her pups parents? i would like to know since i am suck a bad person with shitty dogs then why did she buy from me huh?

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i would like to know since i am suck a bad person with shitty dogs then why did she buy from me huh?

....trying to get your point across while being totally uneducated and unable to construct a sentence...PRICELESS.

Melissa? I was at your place last week. Steve said you moved to your other house. Which one girl, I want to visit. Your little Shetland is cute. My mother asked me about you last week too .... please don't be a stranger. Come visit us. Calib wants to see Christopher again.

Call me.

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Originally posted by BabyEagle4U:
When searching for a dog the potential buyer must be aware that this is a "buyer beware" market. The breeder may or may not care about producing healthy, temperamentally stable dogs. The breeder may or may not care about conducting business honestly. The consumer protection laws of each state and the local animal control statutes remain the consumer's only protection if one deals with an unscrupulous breeder.
There is no other agent overseeing the conduct and business practices of breeders.

Looks like Be4U is carrying on yet another imaginary conversation by copying and pasting text from websites. Plagiarism anyone?

http://www.ibizan.freeservers.com/ethics.htm

LOL, someone slip some lithium into BE4U's drink...this chick definitely needs her meds!

She bought out of sympathy for the dog. She didn't know it was sick till she took it to the vet maybe that is why. Still don't matter since you sell sick dogs even after you been caught you put them out on contracts since she called when you had an ad in the paper for free bassets. The catch you get 3 or more litters back from each one you give away free.

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Originally posted by Canine:

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Originally posted by BabyEagle4U:
When searching for a dog the potential buyer must be aware that this is a "buyer beware" market. The breeder may or may not care about producing healthy, temperamentally stable dogs. The breeder may or may not care about conducting business honestly. The consumer protection laws of each state and the local animal control statutes remain the consumer's only protection if one deals with an unscrupulous breeder.
There is no other agent overseeing the conduct and business practices of breeders.

Looks like Be4U is carrying on yet another imaginary conversation by copying and pasting text from websites. Plagiarism anyone?

Your just afraid to comment now .... knowing you don't like a thing I post. LMAO

And you scream .... Plagiarism !!!!

I see plenty more "copy & paste" Get a life and learn how to express words, thoughts, feelings and ideas on your own. Looser!

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Originally posted by BabyEagle4U:
And to mention : While the popular portrait of a breeder is someone who cares about the dogs brought into the world by his or her efforts and placing them in responsible homes, there is pressure on the ambitious breeder to keep producing more show-quality dogs. This can result in overbreeding, which triggers a cascade of disasters: poor quality facilities, poor socialization, poor health assessment, poor care, and desperate schemes to get rid of the unwanted puppies.

If you insist in the old "copy & paste" routine, at least give credit where credit is due Moron!

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Originally posted by BabyEagle4U:
When searching for a dog the potential buyer must be aware that this is a "buyer beware" market. The breeder may or may not care about producing healthy, temperamentally stable dogs. The breeder may or may not care about conducting business honestly. The consumer protection laws of each state and the local animal control statutes remain the consumer's only protection if one deals with an unscrupulous breeder.
There is no other agent overseeing the conduct and business practices of breeders.

GET A REAL LIFE BE4U! You cant fool us. Idott!

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Originally posted by cncrose:
Do you live in Pa? I think I know you. Your the horse lady? Do you own that bar Dawgy's or something like that?