Sheltieluvr I am not judging I just stated that we all know of what happen down in NO. I also know that there are people that are still in shock from Katrina.But when do you say hey enough is enough? it will take years for NO to get back on it's feet. Do you tell people until NO is fix up those people in your home must stay there? the next question is would you keep them there until then? it is very hard to get a job with no education or skills. Well at least I know it to be true in Indiana. I agree that we as a nation should help. but then again to much help will help yourself right out of your home ,then who will help you! I wanna say this I live in what is called tornados alley I believe and I think it was last year a tornado hit on the other side of my town so I know the threat .But I will leave as soon as the siren sounds even if I was poor. I would beg my neighbor hell I even go to crystals why because you have nothing more valueable then your life. I would not expect the government to take care of me nore would I expect my neighbor or whom ever to take me in and live off them forever ,I know this just happen but you can not expect people to keep helping you. You have to help yourself... As I said I don't want people to think I am heartless.
I had to smile on your statement Denise
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Originally posted by Denise: PD stated her opinion of the situation, you stated your opinion about her being 'heartless and cruel', and I stated my opinion about you being a jack off. Ain't America great?!
Originally posted by Poodlemania: Having lived through three concurrent hurricanes last year I know what those people are going through. It burns me to hear someone like PD make that sort of blanket statement. Those that have never experienced it can only imagine. Denise I am not being a jack off but can start if you want me too so back off.
Sorry Poodle but you DONT know what those people are going through.
This was not a run of the mill hurricane; this was a MASSIVE multifaceted dissaster, probably the worst in our history.
This entire region is Way BEYOND a warzone. With wars, you will have small pockets of destruction. Those areas in MS and NO are literally devastated and demolished for thousands of miles.
Its like a nuclear bomb went off down there..only difference is that there are thousands and thousands of survivors that dont know wth to do or where to go.
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Sorry but I DO know what they are going through. I lost my home and everything but the clothes on my back last year and had to relocate elsewhere. Yes I do know what they are going through and everyone should not be categorized into one group.
Originally posted by Poodlemania: Sorry but I DO know what they are going through. I lost my home and everything but the clothes on my back last year and had to relocate elsewhere. Yes I do know what they are going through and everyone should not be categorized into one group.
Well, im not trying to discredit what you have gone through. Im just saying this is a whole nother ballgame..rapes, murders, looting, contamination, dead bodies laying everywhere for what will turn into weeks. This is something no one in this country has been through before because this has never happened on such a massive and devastating scale with sooo many variables. This is why most of the country is having such a hard time understanding all of this-we just dont know how to react to something we've never even imagined would happen in this country.
There is a lot more involved here beyond a normal hurricane....
Posts: 3602 | Location (City, State): PA | Registered: Fri August 27 2004
Originally posted by Poodlemania: Sorry but I DO know what they are going through. I lost my home and everything but the clothes on my back last year and had to relocate elsewhere. Yes I do know what they are going through and everyone should not be categorized into one group.
Well, im not trying to discredit what you have gone through. Im just saying this is a whole nother ballgame..rapes, murders, looting, contamination, dead bodies laying everywhere for what will turn into weeks. This is something no one in this country has been through before because this has never happened on such a massive and devastating scale with sooo many variables. This is why most of the country is having such a hard time understanding all of this-we just dont know how to react to something we've never even imagined would happen in this country.
There is a lot more involved here beyond a normal hurricane....
Yes had the levees not broke, the destruction would of not been to this magnatude. The actual majority of the destruction came from the levees, even thou the hurricane alone without the levees breaking was horrible and to top it off with the flooding made it extremely bad. There were too sets of problems, destruction from the hurricane and destruction from the flooding. Both situations took lives, to put two horrible situations together made it unimaginable. We have alot of tornadoes here but I would never consider it comparible to this hurricane. Tornadoes take lives, homes, jobs but nothing compared to this.
Saving just one animal won't change the world, but it will change HIS world!
Exactly, SL! And I believe they're going to find many, many dead people that survived both the hurricane and the flooding, but perished in the warzone after.
I don't know how in the world they're going to investigate the murders that took place.
Originally posted by Purfect Dream: do you miss California? and it is a good think you moved California will become an island or sink into the ocean.
I do miss California. I love to go and visit but I don't miss the stupid laws there or the high cost of living. What I loved so much about it was that you could do anything there. You could go to the mountains and to the beach in the same day.
Originally posted by Denise: Exactly, SL! And I believe they're going to find many, many dead people that survived both the hurricane and the flooding, but perished in the warzone after.
I don't know how in the world they're going to investigate the murders that took place.
Alot of investigations that were going on, were basicly lost! The flood waters ruined tons of evidence from the courthouse they said on CNN this evening, which was built in one of the lowest laying areas of NO.
You know something that creeps me out? Did any of you see the pictures they were showing several days ago of all those coffins on the beach? Supposedly they came from some mausaleums in NO. How in the world are they going to identify those bodies and get them back in their rightful places? That's creepy and if it were one of my loved ones in one of those coffins, I would be beside myself!
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Originally posted by Denise: Exactly, SL! And I believe they're going to find many, many dead people that survived both the hurricane and the flooding, but perished in the warzone after.
I don't know how in the world they're going to investigate the murders that took place.
Alot of investigations that were going on, were basicly lost! The flood waters ruined tons of evidence from the courthouse they said on CNN this evening, which was built in one of the lowest laying areas of NO.
My car payment gets sent to a bank in New Orleans. I wonder what the chances are of them losing that record? I know - I know, but you can wish can't you?
You can dream...
Posts: 14048 | Location (City, State): Indiana, USA | Registered: Sat September 06 2003
Originally posted by CrystalK: You know something that creeps me out? Did any of you see the pictures they were showing several days ago of all those coffins on the beach? Supposedly they came from some mausaleums in NO. How in the world are they going to identify those bodies and get them back in their rightful places? That's creepy and if it were one of my loved ones in one of those coffins, I would be beside myself!
Creepy? I think its down right scary for all of us! Who knows what kind of diseases could rise up out of that mess? Somone was telling me yesterday actually,, remeber the plauge during WW2,, wasnt that caused in part by all the dead and dying laying around germany being carried back here stateside by those exposed to the flu strain that popped up over there? Scary! Even if they can drain the whole area, all those chemicals, bacteria and toxins will still be laying around dry all over everything. One heavy rain and whoosh everyones sick!
Originally posted by CrystalK: Cute signature MT!! I decided to change mine also. Needed a change.
TY Crystal and yours is cute too! I made my little fluff ball there all by hand in psp and was suprised as heck it turned out so good so figured I could atleast use it here as a signature tag lol.
Originally posted by Denise: Exactly, SL! And I believe they're going to find many, many dead people that survived both the hurricane and the flooding, but perished in the warzone after.
I don't know how in the world they're going to investigate the murders that took place.
Alot of investigations that were going on, were basicly lost! The flood waters ruined tons of evidence from the courthouse they said on CNN this evening, which was built in one of the lowest laying areas of NO.
My car payment gets sent to a bank in New Orleans. I wonder what the chances are of them losing that record? I know - I know, but you can wish can't you?
Posted Sep 9, 5:41 PM Exactly, SL! And I believe they're going to find many, many dead people that survived both the hurricane and the flooding, but perished in the warzone after.
I don't know how in the world they're going to investigate the murders that took place.
Looks like things weren't as bad as the media made out...
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Media, blushing, takes a second look at Katrina
By Jennifer Harper THE WASHINGTON TIMES September 28, 2005
The general in charge of Louisiana's hurricane relief has admonished reporters not to confuse questions with answers, and urged them to give the public facts -- not exaggerations and rumors that several media organizations now say corrupted coverage of Hurricane Katrina. "Don't get stuck on stupid, reporters," Lt. Gen. Russel Honore first told them last week. "We are moving forward. And don't confuse the people, please. You are part of the public message. So help us get the message straight." Several media organizations have examined, sometimes harshly, the work of newspapers and particularly cable-TV news networks. The New Orleans Times-Picayune published a lengthy account Monday of errors, misrepresentations and wildly exaggerated claims of murder, rape and abuse of children at the New Orleans Superdome. The newspaper cited publication of "scores of myths about the dome and Convention Center treated as fact by evacuees, the media and even some of New Orleans' top officials." Since the hurricane hit four weeks ago, estimates of deaths at the Superdome, for example, have been revised downward from 200 to 10, and four of those were heart attacks. One was a suicide, and one man is thought to have been pushed from a balcony to the floor hundreds of feet below. Police said one man found dead at the Superdome is thought to have been killed elsewhere. Eddie Compass, the superintendent of New Orleans police, told television talk-show hostess Oprah Winfrey on Sept. 6 that "babies" were raped at the Superdome, and Mayor C. Ray Nagin told her on that broadcast that crowds at the Superdome had watched murder and mayhem. "They have people standing out there, have been in that frickin' Superdome for five days watching dead bodies," Mr. Nagin said, "watching hooligans killing people, raping people." Superintendent Compass announced his retirement yesterday. Mr. Nagin yesterday praised his tenure as police chief, but neither Superintendent Compass nor Mr. Nagin would say whether the chief was pressured to leave. Television reporters, whose courage in the face of danger has been widely praised, are nevertheless accused of passing along fanciful accounts of mayhem. Rep. Peter T. King, New York Republican, accused MSNBC's Chris Matthews of "distorting reality" on a broadcast Monday. "You are distorting reality," he told him. "And that's the problem with you. You and MSNBC have carried away with this. You should all be ashamed of yourself." New Orleans District Attorney Eddie Jordan told the Associated Press yesterday that officials at the morgue in St. Gabriel, La., have identified four homicide victims from New Orleans. All were shot; all were adults. He said police had arrested one person on suspicion of attempted sexual assault but had received no official reports of rape. However, Judy Benitez, executive director of the Louisiana Foundation Against Sexual Assault, says it is too soon to discount accounts of rape at the Superdome. "It is extremely difficult to get good statistics about rape under normal circumstances, and these are certainly not normal circumstances." Both victims and rapists are scattered across the country, she noted. Media analysts noted that conditions in New Orleans were chaotic and that reporters relied on fragmentary accounts, collected from often unverifiable sources. "The fog of war and the gusts of a hurricane both cloud and obscure vital truths," said Matthew Felling of the Center for Media and Public Affairs. "What we're seeing here is no different than the reports of museum looting right after U.S. troops entered Baghdad. It's not that different from election night 2000 when some journalists prematurely declared a winner. In all three cases, the public would have been served by a bit more patience and less feigned certainty." A Gallup poll released yesterday found that 37 percent of the respondents don't regard most media accounts as reliable, and 12 percent said they have no trust at all. The poll of 921 adults was taken Sept. 13 to 15. The chaos in the wake of Katrina seemed to affect some reporters and editors, says Kelly McBride, who teaches ethics at the Poynter Institute, a journalism research and education center in St. Petersburg, Fla. "You get so hung up as a reporter on what the big picture is that you use generalizations that become untrue."
I'd like to know what the hell that last quote was supposed to mean? "You get so hung up as a reporter on what the big picture is that you use generalizations that become untrue."
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