talk about fear. who wants to be buried underground 6 feet? im get freaky about closed in spaces already and cremation for me has never been an option. Im surprised how few people talk about this stuff while they are still living. i think someone should make a cemetery that is completely above ground. hopefully i wont be the first customer, but when my times comes I would
<BORNTORUN>
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IF YOU START A COMPAANY THAT BURIES PEOPLE ABOVE GROUND, LET ME KNOW. I WILL TAKE THAT WAY ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. I AM CLAUSTOPHOBIC AND DREAD DYING FOR JUST THAT REASON. OTHERWISE I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT DYING.
<Whitefish>
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You silly people! What's the fear about being buried six feet under!? It's just your body, not your spirit! It won't even matter once your spirit slips from this world to the spirit world! Hopefully your spirit will be shouting " Wow I wish I could have come sooner!"
<peter4hire>
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And are you sure? I didnt get an instruction guide with my body upon birth. How so ya know your not really alive down there. My grandfather was buried alive. I think its possible we are still inside the corpse.
petah
<Pilgrim>
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For a christian...to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. For a non-beleiver to be absent from the body is to be present in Hell. You had better be woried about your soul and not your body.
<Rob>
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So if I choose not to believe..then I go to hell?
I think your reading the wrong book....
<peter4hire>
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How in this day and age, people still believe this eternal soul thing astounds me. So when you are walking down the street, and you step on an ant, and you crush it to death, does that ant go to heaven?
If the answer is no, then dont expect us to go there either.
<Whitefish>
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The answer is yes, the ant does go to heaven, so does every living creature that God and Jesus Christ created. Everything living on this earth animals, mammals, plants.........all will be restored to their true form in heaven, (or the spirit world) at the time of the resurrection.
<peter4hire>
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who is feeding you this junk? I am a pretty intelligent male, and in all my 47 years, no spiritual one that I can recall has whispered such glory into my ears directly. If someone would come down from the heavens and show me a powerpoint slide show of what is up there, well, i might change my mind. In the meantime, my gut tells me, when we die, we just dry up into dust or the worms eat til they puke. I hardly think we really find our old relatives up in space somewhere. Has the church put that much fear into you that you cant think for yourself?
<Whitefish>
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Tell me, do you believe in God? My knowlege from the Bible tells me that we are created in the divine image of our Father in Heaven, and so God must have a body, as well as his son Jesus Christ. When we leave this world, our body stays, but our spirit returns to our Father who created us, until the resurrection, when our body and spirit will be reunited. Our family and friends spirits will go to paradise, (in other words the spirit world) as Jesus Christ taught to the thief who was on the cross beside him. There they will be reunited with their friends and loved ones who have gone on before them. Death is nothing to fear, but actually something to look forward to, as we will be returning to our Heavenly Father and our Savior Jesus Christ, as well as all of our loved ones.
<peter4hire>
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Whitefish, nice try, but... I dont think so.
With all the religions and various faiths in the world, who is to say which one is right?
What if only one is right?
If you bet on the wrong one, then what happens.
So whats is it gonna be? Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, or any of the hundreds of other minority religions?
What if at the end of the day, we were just a very sophisticated mutation of a single cell fish that somehow evolved into a walking, talking, warm body with a brain- left on this earth to cope with all the death, disease, and human suffering that exists in our world each day?
And what if religion was simply the mechanism we use to manage our way through it all?
When you die, your dead.
Sorry.
<Whitefish>
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Wow............your like a brick wall aren't you? You keep on going the way you are, but my friend you are really missing out by choosing to believe what you say. What's your purpose in life? What do you look forward to as the years roll by and you prepare to enter your golden years? Are you going to wait til your a grandfather and on your death bed and then change your mind, and say your first prayer?
There is not just one religon that will be accepted into Heaven. The Bible clearly says that anyone who is saved,repents of their sins, and accepts Jesus Christ can enter into Heaven. John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said unto him,Verily,verily I say unto thee,Except a man be born again,he cannot see the Kingdom of God."
Why would you choose to believe that man just popped up on earth,or worse evolved from a ape? If that were true, why aren't the apes in the zoo's evolving right now? Put your faith in God, not man. Psalms 118:8 "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
As far as someone coming down from the Heavens, Jesus already did that when He died for our sins and rose again. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." And He will be coming back. Philippians 1:10-11 :That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow,of things in Heaven,and things in earth,and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord,to the glory of God the Father."
Jesus is the way to the Father, John 13:1-3 "Let not your heart be troubled; ye believe in God,believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions,if it were not so I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you,I will come again,and recieve you unto myself; that where I am, there you may be also."
I pray that you pick up a Bible soon and learn the truth before it is too late.
"Only when the last plant has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money."
Posts: 7 | Location (City, State): WV | Registered: Sat May 10 2003
Boston wrote quote "Anyone who is saved, repents of their sins and accepts Jesus Christ can enter into heaven." There is one important thing missing. The Bible tells us that Jesus taught that we must obey the commandments. It's not enough to confess your sins and confess that Jesus is the Christ. That alone won't get any of us into heaven. We must follow the Saviors example and try to live a Christ like life. (Matthew 5:48) We all slip up from time to time and have need for repentance. ( I'm talking small sins, not the big sins such as immorality) After we have done all that we can do, in other words after we have tried hard to be Christ like and have fallen short, then the Savior will pick up the slack. That is where the atonement comes in. Yes Jesus taught that in his Fathers house are many mansions. Thats why there is more than just a heaven and a hell. Our reward will be a according to our works here on earth. As for Boston's quote from John 3:3 being born again actually means to be baptized by immersion. When we were in our mothers womb we were covered with fluid, or water, but since we can't as the scripture says, enter back into our mothers womb, to be born again means to go into the water and be completely immerged. Which is what Christ did. He set the example. He had John the Baptist baptize him. Why was someone as perfect as Christ baptized? To set the example. To show us that he was obedient to his Father in Heaven. We must be obedient to the commandments also.
Yes you have to keep the commandments, I simply stated that first you must be saved. Jesus cleans you up from the inside first. The rest will come easier after your saved. You must strive to be Christlike but thats why Jesus died for us because we all fall short. And in order to be baptized you must first be saved. Baptism is the immersion of believers in water in the name of the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit, representing the burial and resurrection of Christ and the death of Christians to the world, washing of their souls from sin, and their rising to newness of life to serve God and their resurection at the last day. And in the end we will all stand before God and be judged according to our works, whether it be good or evil.That doesn't mean that someone who lived a slightly better Christian life than another will be better than another in Heaven, it will seperate the true Christians from those that are evil. Corinthians 5:10, Ecclesiastes 12:14, Matthew 12:36, Revelations 20:12, Romans 2:16.
"Only when the last plant has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money."
Posts: 7 | Location (City, State): WV | Registered: Sat May 10 2003
I hate all the hell and damnation talk. A god of love wouldn't do this. We put ourselves into a mental lake of fire and damnation by the things we do. God is loving and forgives us. We don't have to do anything. He did it all for us. Yes, even Judas has seen God's mercy. Annie
<Whitefish>
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Annie, Whose talking hell and damnation? Just the truth. What did Jesus say? " If ye love me, keep my commandments". We are not saved by grace alone. Obedience coupled with grace. Again, God expects us to obey the commandments. (It is a good excuse to sin with the attitude that no matter what you do in the end you will be saved.) WRONG! We will all be judged by our works by the Savior Jesus Christ. Read the Bible. Jesus set the example. "Be thou therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect". " Come follow me", the Savior said.
well now if you're a claustrophobic person as i am, then your fear is very real. It's the idea of suffocating and I know I'm going to get flack for saying this, but who really knows if you can feel or semblance therof after you are dead....I know it's supposed to be only your body and not your soul, but it's the thought of it all in the end, isn't it. Your fear is very real and not imagined and many people feel exactly the same way you do. Don't sweat it. There are above ground cemetaries in Lousiana if you really want to buried above ground--that's due to the flooding that often occurs---I think they put bodies in mausoleums, but at least you aren't buried in the ground. The reason people don't like to talk about these sort of things, other than just feeling uncomfortable is because it forces one to face their own immortality. We all like to feel like we're made of steel and invincible and that subject makes for a fast reality check. Have a nice week and I do hope this helped in some way.
