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Timmy's Girl

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Well, I would be saying the same thing if it were myself misusing alcohol. I'd be kicking my own a$$ because I did it and let it get out of hand.

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indi I don't have to read anything to know there is a true problem with crystal whatever that problem maybe does not give her the right to come on her bashing people for no reason.No I want crystal to get the help she needs I am not a shield and I refuse to let crystal bring her problem on kinzel,deep,DC or myself. I am not cruel I am honest and if Crystal or you can not deal with that then that is on you.Hello I was home minding my business and at 4 am a cop came to my house telling me that crystal was making claims that was not true. so I doubt that I was at fault.had Crystal not had been drinking the cop would had never called.I was told she was drinking. he thought I was too, but found out that I was not.Crystal told this cop I would shoot him and how the hell would you feel opening the door to a gun in your face? see you just want to cushion crystal and pretend that she has no issues with drinking to me that is being heartless and cruel...and every time you get your panties in a not you call me a animal killer. To be honest this might sound cold I really don't care if Crystal drinks her AZZ to death! But when she drinks she needs to refrain from posting nonsense.maybe you need to STOP BEING HER CRUTCH and be a true friend Yeah I know all I need to know about someones drinking problems....I sure the hell don't need to see it every time I come here on weekends.... or early mornings. maybe you need to go to a AA meeting then you will see for yourself the excuses people say or you might learn something also.

Cool Beans

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Exactly TG, you are a mature and responsible person, so therefore you would take responsibilty for your actions rather than whine and beg for pity.

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Timmy's Girl

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Originally posted by Kinzel2:
Exactly TG, you are a mature and responsible person, so therefore you would take responsibilty for your actions rather than whine and beg for pity.

True, I am definitely NOT a whiner

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Cool Beans

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Lol, nope , your a Timmy's Girl,lol!!!

I swear you are amking me like that guy and the whole band!

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I do have to disagree about the alcholic part that it is the persons fault. Alcoholism can be hereditary, a chemical inbalance. You cannot control your chemical balance or imbalance therefore if you are an alcoholic due to chemical imbalance, then no it is not "the" persons fault for drinking. If you become an alcoholic because you misused alcohol and it eventually lead to you being an alcoholic then yes it is that persons fault. But you cannot point fingers at someone with a problem without knowing where the problem derived. Sorry, that is how it is. Street drugs is totally different then alcohol, street drugs should never be used therefore yes it is that persons fault.

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Sheltie you can not blame a parent or grand parent because you are a alcholic.Sorry but I don't buy it. I say that as a child you can see that your parents drank but you don't have to do as your parents do.

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If it is a chemical imbalance is what I said I never said because you watch your parents drink you become and alcholic. Please READ what I wrote.

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well sheltie I have never heard of that I guess this poor creature has chemical imbalance

I blame his parents

Cool Beans

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kinzel I am glad you like it

indigurl

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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
well sheltie I have never heard of that I guess this poor creature has chemical imbalance

I blame his parents

I have dealt with alcoholics before. I have a couple of friends that have gone through treatment and I was there for them everyday. I studied alcoholism in my free time. I tried to udnerstand it. I am not saying that it is only handed down to a person I am saying some people are because of the chenistry. Some are because they drowned theirselves in it therefore it is their fault in a way. Some people feel that is the only place they can turn to feel better. Some children see their parents as drinkers and won't touch a drop because they see what it has done to them. Whatever anyone says won't change my mind, I have done research myself therefore I know what I know.

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indigurl

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Originally posted by indigurl:
sad isn't it sheltie!

Hey indi want to join me at beating a dead horse?

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Doxiechick

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I have dealt with alcoholics before. I have a couple of friends that have gone through treatment and I was there for them everyday. I studied alcoholism in my free time. I tried to udnerstand it. I am not saying that it is only handed down to a person I am saying some people are because of the chenistry. Some are because they drowned theirselves in it therefore it is their fault in a way. Some people feel that is the only place they can turn to feel better. Some children see their parents as drinkers and won't touch a drop because they see what it has done to them. Whatever anyone says won't change my mind, I have done research myself therefore I know what I know.

I agree with this Shelite. Alcoholism can be hereditary and some people are alcholics but have never taken a drink. It means they have the propensity to become one.

And for those who become an alcholic from drinking a lot, alcohol abuse is a symptom not the real problem. Many people self medicate by drinking ... it helps to mask the "real" issues.
It helps to ease pain and suffering, or at least it seems like it does but it in effect only adds a whole new host of problems.

I never judge anyone ... not even one who uses street drugs. Most often a drug user is like the drinker, they are self medicating and the drugs are only a symptom. The real issues are the pain inside they are trying to mask and deal with.

I have a friend who uses drugs fairly badly and she is not a bad person. She uses it to mask her pain and I always try to get her to seek counseling to help her deal with the issues that cause her to turn to it. Unfortunately however, once addiction takes over it is not just the habit of using drugs that have to stop you have to deal with withdrawal which is not pleasant for anyone.

Believe it or not to those of you who honestly think I am mean spirited (I was called that the other day) I am not. I truly do care about people and I never take any solace in seeing anyone beaten up. Unless it is Rose Tamol because she came here to be a troll so she will be treated like nothing more.

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Originally posted by Doxiechick:
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I have dealt with alcoholics before. I have a couple of friends that have gone through treatment and I was there for them everyday. I studied alcoholism in my free time. I tried to udnerstand it. I am not saying that it is only handed down to a person I am saying some people are because of the chenistry. Some are because they drowned theirselves in it therefore it is their fault in a way. Some people feel that is the only place they can turn to feel better. Some children see their parents as drinkers and won't touch a drop because they see what it has done to them. Whatever anyone says won't change my mind, I have done research myself therefore I know what I know.

I agree with this Shelite. Alcoholism can be hereditary and some people are alcholics but have never taken a drink. It means they have the propensity to become one.

And for those who become an alcholic from drinking a lot, alcohol abuse is a symptom not the real problem. Many people self medicate by drinking ... it helps to mask the "real" issues.
It helps to ease pain and suffering, or at least it seems like it does but it in effect only adds a whole new host of problems.

I never judge anyone ... not even one who uses street drugs. Most often a drug user is like the drinker, they are self medicating and the drugs are only a symptom. The real issues are the pain inside they are trying to mask and deal with.

I have a friend who uses drugs fairly badly and she is not a bad person. She uses it to mask her pain and I always try to get her to seek counseling to help her deal with the issues that cause her to turn to it. Unfortunately however, once addiction takes over it is not just the habit of using drugs that have to stop you have to deal with withdrawal which is not pleasant for anyone.

Believe it or not to those of you who honestly think I am mean spirited (I was called that the other day) I am not. I truly do care about people and I never take any solace in seeing anyone beaten up. Unless it is Rose Tamol because she came here to be a troll so she will be treated like nothing more.

that is exactly what I was saying. That is why alcoholics that are recovering are always recovering and cannot touch alcohol again. Unfortunatly once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a disease no matter the reason it started. It is serious and shouldn't be joked around about no matter who it is.

Saving just one animal won't change the world, but it will change HIS world!

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Doxiechick

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PD I did not want to comment on this because I don't want anyone to think I am insinuating that I think someone is an alcoholic

I want to make it known as well that I was giving my thoughts on alcoholism and I AM IN NO way calling anyone an alcoholic either.

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Doxiechick

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I think it is the chemical imbalance that can cause the disease. A chemcial imbalance can lead to several types of disorders. My dad had a chemical imbalance that led to his schyzophrenia. Some chemical imbalances cause depression. I thinks ome can cause one to be prone to alcoholism. But Deep you are right it is a disease and should be treated as such.

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