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Ok, just one for sure, maybe two little cockatiel babies hatched. I've got some pretty protective parents so I know for sure I have one baby, and another pair has at least one pipped shell, but its been pipped since yesterday, so not sure it will get out.

No pics yet. Will post when I take some.

I'm so excited!

Oh, and I can't count. Its seventeen fertile eggs, not eighteen. duh.

MsB


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"Pipped." That's funny.

SEVENTEEN!!!! Wow!


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Two hatched, from two different pairs. Pair w/ first hatched has another egg with a big hole it in. Maybe three by tomorrow? I love the little peeping sound they make...inside and outside of the shell!

MsB


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What does pipped mean? I was most careful with my typing on that word. LOL

17 Wow. Pics please. I love those baby pics, I don't think they are ugly. They are facinating.


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I now have four live chicks out of five, one died in the shell, almost hatched. Frown Its a hard thing to know if you should intervene, I guess the answer was yes, I should have, yesterday. Hindsight.

Three of the four pairs have at least one chick. The last pair I would expect babies tomorrow or Wed.

And I do have pics of one of the babies BUT I cant find the wire that I use to transfer pics to the computer! Ugh! I'll have to have my husband find it.

The pair that has two chicks, they have a whiteface and a pastelface baby. You can tell by the color of their down, one is white, the other is light yellow. Cute.

MsB, who hopefully is getting the hang of this backyard bird breeding thing. So much money to be made! (NOT)


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One of the new arrivals:



50% chance it is an Emerald (hope).
Daddy bird is a Whiteface Emerald/pied and Momma bird is a Cinnamon Pearl/Emerald.

The goal is to get an Emerald hen to keep because I do not want a cockbird emerald that is split to cinnamon...for whatever reason, they do not want to mix the two colors, at least not at this time. So, I will probably get all males...isnt that always the way?

MsB


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don't cry if your chick dies as well, cause you are handling the bird.

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don't cry if your chick dies as well, cause you are handling the bird.

Roll Eyes


You are a complete and utter moron. Handling the chicks is not harmful at all...unless I was to drop him on concrete or throw him against the wall...some birds will even feed them while you are holding them. Sometimes, Linda, it is best to just shut up instead of making yourself look even MORE moronic than you already come across. how many birds have you raised, Linda? Handfed? Did you tubefeed or syringe feed? What species? Ask me those questions, Linda. Please.

Sorry. SS...

Pipped is when the chick is preparing to hatch. You can see little cracks where the chick is using his eggtooth on the inside to crack the shell. Its hard to get a photo of a pipped egg...it is such a tiny outdent. I dont know if thats a word, but it is the opposite of "indent" lol. The chicks have to work very hard to get out. It is an amazing process.

I truly overlooked this question and did not intend to ignore it. I am always happy to answer sincere questions if I know the answer.

Here is another fact: birds do NOT have a good sense of smell. So, even if a baby WILD BIRD is on the ground and you handle it...it is NOT TRUE that the parents will not take it back. If you put it back in the nest, they will care for it if it is healthy and needs fed. However, many chicks who are "removed" from the nest before weaning and fledging are removed due to disease or just the survival of the fittest and may NOT be accepted or cared for. But YOU TOUCHING IT has absolutely NOTHING to do with that.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, TBB.
Your attempt at knowing more than I do about birds is a FAIL. Will always be a FAIL.

However, you do seem to know quite a bit about whores. That is interesting, isnt it?

MsB


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As I stated don't cry when the bird dies because you are handling it.

I have never raised a bird but my father has raised many in his 66 years of life. that bird is to young for you to be putting your hooker hands all over it.

you truely know everything about birds but you will learn teehee I feel for that stupid bird

I know what I know so go back to that corner you need to help deepthroat with her dog shows


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You are a complete and utter moron. Handling the chicks is not harmful at all...unless I was to drop him on concrete or throw him against the wall...some birds will even feed them while you are holding them. Sometimes, Linda, it is best to just shut up instead of making yourself look even MORE moronic than you already come across. how many birds have you raised, Linda? Handfed? Did you tubefeed or syringe feed? What species? Ask me those questions, Linda. Please.

Sorry. SS...

Pipped is when the chick is preparing to hatch. You can see little cracks where the chick is using his eggtooth on the inside to crack the shell. Its hard to get a photo of a pipped egg...it is such a tiny outdent. I dont know if thats a word, but it is the opposite of "indent" lol. The chicks have to work very hard to get out. It is an amazing process.

I truly overlooked this question and did not intend to ignore it. I am always happy to answer sincere questions if I know the answer.

Here is another fact: birds do NOT have a good sense of smell. So, even if a baby WILD BIRD is on the ground and you handle it...it is NOT TRUE that the parents will not take it back. If you put it back in the nest, they will care for it if it is healthy and needs fed. However, many chicks who are "removed" from the nest before weaning and fledging are removed due to disease or just the survival of the fittest and may NOT be accepted or cared for. But YOU TOUCHING IT has absolutely NOTHING to do with that.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, TBB.
Your attempt at knowing more than I do about birds is a FAIL. Will always be a FAIL.

However, you do seem to know quite a bit about whores. That is interesting, isnt it?

MsB


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Thanks MsB. I am very interested in your BYBB, LOL.

I have my hands full right now looking after someone else's dogs,as well as my own, but when I get the chance I'm going to research then buy from a breeder/bird, that is, and see if I can do some BYBB.

I would luv to hold a tiny baby bird in my hand, and with the necessary knowledge, watch it grow up.

I love my old budgie, he/she is funny and really quite intelligent. When it's very hot, I squirt him with a toy water pistol and he/she loves it. For some reason, he/she does not like bird baths?

Also, I read your post on taking control of the "dogs" - applied your techniques and although it took some time, I won, and things are soooooo much nicer around here now.

I truly am amazed at how the dog issue worked so well. TY for writing that post.

ETA - Just so nobody jumps on the budjie issue, he/she came with the dogs. Can't miss a beat on Pluba. LOL.


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Budgies are wonderful, I have two. I have had many in the past. Who cares where yours came from? You love it! Birds are not dogs or cats and if you want to breed birds and can care for them properly, and can handfeed to help insure they will be good companions, go for it.

My birds LOVE to be misted with a spray bottle, warm water, cold water, they dont care. Much preferred over a big bowl for a bath...though I still offer one on occasion.

I have photos of baby budgies, even smaller than cockatiels, in my hand. Surprise! They grew up! Of course, Linda will say I am lying cause I dont have "proof". And, of course, her Dad is a bird expert, yanno.

Im glad you were able to get your dogs behavior more acceptable. Giving you the information is just one piece of the puzzle...if you do not apply it, or apply it without true understanding, it will not work. So congrats are in order for you, certainly.

Now, I'd like for TBB/Linda to talk a bit more about her fathers vast bird knowledge.
What kind of birds does he/did he raise?
Did he incubate eggs and handfeed from day one, or pull after a certain amount of time? If so, how long? How did he prefer to handfeed? Syringe? Spoon? Tube? Needle? What did he do to counteract yeast in crops or crop stasis? What type of brooder did he use?

If he only 'rescued' a few wild birds, what kind? What did he feed them? Were they fledged or not when found? Did he TRY to find the nest to put them back? How many died vs how many lived? Is he a licensed wildlife rehabber? If not, why didnt he take them to one?

Smile

MsB


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Thanks MsB. I am very interested in your BYBB, LOL.

I have my hands full right now looking after someone else's dogs,as well as my own, but when I get the chance I'm going to research then buy from a breeder/bird, that is, and see if I can do some BYBB.

I would luv to hold a tiny baby bird in my hand, and with the necessary knowledge, watch it grow up.

I love my old budgie, he/she is funny and really quite intelligent. When it's very hot, I squirt him with a toy water pistol and he/she loves it. For some reason, he/she does not like bird baths?

Also, I read your post on taking control of the "dogs" - applied your techniques and although it took some time, I won, and things are soooooo much nicer around here now.

I truly am amazed at how the dog issue worked so well. TY for writing that post.

ETA - Just so nobody jumps on the budjie issue, he/she came with the dogs. Can't miss a beat on Pluba. LOL.


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No shock to me, BTW, that the poor little mistreated baby pictured above is alive and well this morning with a full crop.

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MsB


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Regarding wild birds:

http://www.songbirdcareandeduc.../foundababybird.html

http://www.denveraudubon.org/d...ts/foundbabybird.pdf

Regarding cockatiels specifically:

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art23665.asp

"If the parents are tame, you should be able to handle the babies daily to check them over. Make sure they have nice full crops and are growing daily. This handling will help ensure that they will be used to you and will be tame when its time to leave their parents."

http://www.avianweb.com/cockatielchicks.html

"If the parents are well-socialized, you should be able to handle the babies every day to check them over. They should have full crops and as they grow quickly, you will see a difference on daily basis."

http://www.cockatielcottage.net/breeding3.html

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Oh, and by the way, one of the babies in my Pastelface/whiteface box is a Whiteface lutino, aka an ALBINO. All white. Woo!

MsB


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Certainly TBB/Linda, it is best if you stick with the subjects you seem to know the most about, or are the most obsessed with...sex and whores. *shiver* *gag*

CLASSY!

MsB


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She won't have much more to say. She has no idea of breeding birds. She is well educated in breeding sickly, homely looking, infectious with URI's, poor quality kittens thou. If you would like to know more about those types of breedings she will be the one to go for answers and her expertise.


BTW I have a picture of an egg that is pipped and zipped, but it is a chicken egg. I would post it but my pictures are huge and ruin a thread. But Simon, you can find some online by doing a search. It is really neat to see a baby bird poke its beak through its shell.
 
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Oh, shoot, too bad the pics are huge. I would really like to see that "pipped" egg.

I'll check online as you say. Is it pipped and zipped? This all new "lingo" to me!

BTW, MsB, Not all went smoothly with the dog training. I made the mistake, you so clearly outlined NOT to make.

When I thought the ONE that was starting the fights with the younger males (not all my males), was "cured" I went back to the regular routine with him.

In two days there was a blood curdling fight again, damned good job I was home. Shocked the heck out of me.

So, back to - out last, in last, fed last, not much attention, for another month. He has made attempts at starting a fight, but then looks at me and sulks away. Yesssss!! I keep him crated when I'm not home, can't trust him.

In all earnest, I thought he would have to go to a shelter, my vet wouldn't put him down, too healthy and too young. The idea of a shelter was not sitting well with me, so I fought back.

I'm am now the BOSS LADY... LOL, thanks to you.

Off to Google for pipped/zipped eggs. I can't wait to try BYBB, I love birds. The whole concept of eggs hatching, etc, sounds facinating SRT and MsB. And those sweet baby's, amazing!


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Yes, pipped is poking its little beak out of the shell. Zipped is when after pipping they make a crack around the egg, then they break out. That is how it is for chickens, I would assume cockatiels zip, but maybe not.
 
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Yes, pipped is poking its little beak out of the shell. Zipped is when after pipping they make a crack around the egg, then they break out. That is how it is for chickens, I would assume cockatiels zip, but maybe not.


they do zip, but I hadnt heard it called that! LOL. Tiels dont make the hole like chickens do, from my experience. They "pip" with just a little "outdent" as I call it, all aruond the shell (zip!)then bust out.

If you want to send me the pic, SL, I will shrink it for you. PT it to me.

And, SS...you cannot go back to "normal" routine...it must always be you are leader of the pack. You figured out very fast what happens when you allow things to go back to the way they were...but good job, you learned! Some never do.

Im so cruel, I picked up the whiteface lutino baby today. Didnt get her pic, but I did let my daughter see her. Has to be a female. I love genetics!

MsB


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Yeah, you are cruel, picking up a lutino baby! How dareth you!!!

And to inflict such trauma, by way of showing it to your daughter. Tsk, tsk, some people!!!

Sheltie, tell MsB to just stop that behaviour!

BTW:- No, I took your posted advise and Never went back to Normal with that male. He is still last on the list for all things. I will not have vicious dog fights happening ever again.

But,again, I would not have known what to do had you not posted. I see dog behaviour in a whole new light now. It feels good too! Way less stress!


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One of the new arrivals:



50% chance it is an Emerald (hope).
Daddy bird is a Whiteface Emerald/pied and Momma bird is a Cinnamon Pearl/Emerald.

The goal is to get an Emerald hen to keep because I do not want a cockbird emerald that is split to cinnamon...for whatever reason, they do not want to mix the two colors, at least not at this time. So, I will probably get all males...isnt that always the way?

MsB
awwww....ugly little shit, but at least it's alive. Congrats!!!


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