By the way, I think Amber's little guys are darling!!!!!! I don't see anything wrong with them. But since I don't know a show dog from shenola, my opinion in that doesn't matter.
Julie: Have you noticed that each time you win at the show, no matter what, Truths Here starts running you down! She tried to make it look like you shouldn't associate with the Pluba people, BUT, I believe,due to the consitency of her posting about you ...only when you win with one of you GSP's, that Truths Here..is "jealous!!"
Last time you received "Reserve"..and heard nothing from TH..this time was different!
There are other's she will not attack when they win at the shows, I believe that is because she/they either know her/them or she/they are intimidated by that person/s!
Watch next time you win, TH will say nothing about you, just to prove me wrong!
Eva: Perfectly written! Point well made!
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Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's: I have Dual Champions and BIS winners but I choose not to post their pictures.
EXCUSES EXCUSES!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by Eva: No newbies with a mind of their own is going to listen to TH because Josephine, Von and Ratlady have all posted pics of their dogs to prove they know what they are talking about. I see nothing from TH, so how would a newbie even know the stuff TH spits out isn't BS? None of TH's posts even resembles something someone would see as credible. Nothing "they" post makes sense.
Oh That Is Rich.
VonLahr Is The Only One That Can Post Photo's Of Champion's. She Post's Those So She Can Get Pat's On The Back From Back Yard Breeder's. Why? Who Know's But Obviously She Feel's The Need For Validation Of Her Dog's From Back Yard Breeder's Rather Than Her Peers. That Is Her Problem.
Did You Miss That Part Of The Post's Eva? The Part Where We Said, Very Clearly, Champion's?
Josephine Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Post's Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
RatLady Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Posts Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
Yeppers, true, all true ... now you know why when TH posts, THIS is what I see:
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Ignored post by Truths Here posted Mon September 01 2008 11:11 AM
BEAUTY, EH?
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Originally posted by Eva: No newbies with a mind of their own is going to listen to TH because Josephine, Von and Ratlady have all posted pics of their dogs to prove they know what they are talking about. I see nothing from TH, so how would a newbie even know the stuff TH spits out isn't BS? None of TH's posts even resembles something someone would see as credible. Nothing "they" post makes sense.
You mindless "twit"...there are many reputable breeder's on this forum, with championships!
Who the hell do you think you are? It is my hope, they have a few choice words for you and your's.
Again, you "twit" it is well known I do not have a champion dog "yet," the "hopeful" I do have is my first dog worthy of show and I will be showing him. And then I will post results, just for you, hopefully, I can rub a win in your size 8 face
Your Rotts are crap, you have to run to Canada to title...so are your female sweeties' dachsie's..oh wait, she bought them as champions, what a tribute to her talent that is!
VonLahr is proud, and she should be..garbage like you would only cut her throat for winning. The majority on this forum are pleased for VonLahr, unlike you, Von is an asset to us all, she has much experience and great knowledge, but never flaunts it. You, the Queen of Crap, ""but has nothing to show for it, do nothing but "flaunt," bullsh&t that is.
I know who you are; (oh could I blow you out of the water, with evidence, but it would be detrimental to another, so I won't and haven't) Obviously you have surmized that you and your bandana clad gang are VonLahr's peers?
She's doing fine without you, Von has you beat, idjut!
To quote you, that's what sticks in your craw.
edited to add: Or, you're the one that sold the "bummer" Rottie that can only title in Canada!! Or, maybe's it all of you, or maybe you are all the crappy breeders that couldn't keep a forum running because everybody is smarter than you and your's..
I really don't give a damn! Ta Ta..
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Originally posted by Truths Here:
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Originally posted by Eva: No newbies with a mind of their own is going to listen to TH because Josephine, Von and Ratlady have all posted pics of their dogs to prove they know what they are talking about. I see nothing from TH, so how would a newbie even know the stuff TH spits out isn't BS? None of TH's posts even resembles something someone would see as credible. Nothing "they" post makes sense.
Oh That Is Rich.
VonLahr Is The Only One That Can Post Photo's Of Champion's. She Post's Those So She Can Get Pat's On The Back From Back Yard Breeder's. Why? Who Know's But Obviously She Feel's The Need For Validation Of Her Dog's From Back Yard Breeder's Rather Than Her Peers. That Is Her Problem.
Did You Miss That Part Of The Post's Eva? The Part Where We Said, Very Clearly, Champion's?
Josephine Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Post's Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
RatLady Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Posts Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
You Obviously Are As Dim Minded As They Are.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by Eva: No newbies with a mind of their own is going to listen to TH because Josephine, Von and Ratlady have all posted pics of their dogs to prove they know what they are talking about. I see nothing from TH, so how would a newbie even know the stuff TH spits out isn't BS? None of TH's posts even resembles something someone would see as credible. Nothing "they" post makes sense.
Oh That Is Rich.
VonLahr Is The Only One That Can Post Photo's Of Champion's. She Post's Those So She Can Get Pat's On The Back From Back Yard Breeder's. Why? Who Know's But Obviously She Feel's The Need For Validation Of Her Dog's From Back Yard Breeder's Rather Than Her Peers. That Is Her Problem.
Did You Miss That Part Of The Post's Eva? The Part Where We Said, Very Clearly, Champion's?
Josephine Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Post's Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
RatLady Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Posts Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
You Obviously Are As Dim Minded As They Are.
You know my peers? Are you on GSP lists that I am on? The lists I am on we cant post pictures. But I do get congrats for my wins and many other breeders love my dogs. But i do this for myself not anyone else.
I would like to see them at 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 6 months of age. Is this your first litter?
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Originally posted by Ratlady: I do agree those feet on the red are a distraction and being so bad I wonder if they will affect movement. I hope for Amberleigh they get better because I think the puppy is pretty.
But honestly this does not mean the puppy won't win ... it's not a disqualifying fault ... and frankly I have seen dogs with absolutely atrocious movement put up (and champion titled) because of a pretty head so winning isn't everything or indication of a superior dog.
I do think the cream is a superior girl overall and if she matures nicely and moves well (which she looks to me like she would) she should do well and deservedly so.
Will be interested in seeing your future hopefuls ... I'd like to see them at eight weeks as that is generally the best time to critique puppies for possible keepers as after that (depending on individual dogs and lines) they CAN go pitiful gangly and look bad before coming back together nicely later.
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Originally posted by quest22: Is so nice to beable to read some think . that says some one on these posts really do know dogs . my opion is none of those chi will be winners . they are nice but to many flaws . The front legs on the one if moved back would show more flat foot .and gravel will not help them . Is the shoulder or lay back ok?.The withers are off you have a table toped dog .i have a female bred to a correct conformation chi hopfully ill get some think that is showable .Then ill post pictures at twelve weeks .
Originally posted by Josephine: You mindless "twit"...there are many reputable breeder's on this forum, with championships!
Who the hell do you think you are? It is my hope, they have a few choice words for you and your's.
Again, you "twit" it is well known I do not have a champion dog "yet," the "hopeful" I do have is my first dog worthy of show and I will be showing him. And then I will post results, just for you, hopefully, I can rub a win in your size 8 face
Your Rotts are crap, you have to run to Canada to title...so are your female sweeties' dachsie's..oh wait, she bought them as champions, what a tribute to her talent that is!
VonLahr is proud, and she should be..garbage like you would only cut her throat for winning. The majority on this forum are pleased for VonLahr, unlike you, Von is an asset to us all, she has much experience and great knowledge, but never flaunts it. You, the Queen of Crap, ""but has nothing to show for it, do nothing but "flaunt," bullsh&t that is.
I know who you are; (oh could I blow you out of the water, with evidence, but it would be detrimental to another, so I won't and haven't) Obviously you have surmized that you and your bandana clad gang are VonLahr's peers?
She's doing fine without you, Von has you beat, idjut!
To quote you, that's what sticks in your craw.
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Originally posted by Truths Here:
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Originally posted by Eva: No newbies with a mind of their own is going to listen to TH because Josephine, Von and Ratlady have all posted pics of their dogs to prove they know what they are talking about. I see nothing from TH, so how would a newbie even know the stuff TH spits out isn't BS? None of TH's posts even resembles something someone would see as credible. Nothing "they" post makes sense.
Oh That Is Rich.
VonLahr Is The Only One That Can Post Photo's Of Champion's. She Post's Those So She Can Get Pat's On The Back From Back Yard Breeder's. Why? Who Know's But Obviously She Feel's The Need For Validation Of Her Dog's From Back Yard Breeder's Rather Than Her Peers. That Is Her Problem.
Did You Miss That Part Of The Post's Eva? The Part Where We Said, Very Clearly, Champion's?
Josephine Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Post's Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
RatLady Has Posted No Photo's Of Her Champion's. None. Not A Single One. Because She Has None. She Posts Photo's Of The Numerous Pet's She Has Sold And Her Pet Breeding Stock.
You Obviously Are As Dim Minded As They Are.
Oh Deary. That One Hit A Little Close To Home For You Josephine? You Seem To Have The Same Sort Of Vile Mouth That Your Bestest Buddy, Vaccaro/Baller Has.
Not sure yet if I will be able to but I hope so. I always make Chicago.
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Originally posted by Ratlady: Jenn, I totally agree! Now, how about that, LOL
I also believe attending and participating in conformation events is an integral part of any breeding PROGRAM (as opposed to those who just reproduce puppies for sale which is not a program at all but a money making scheme); even tho each litter I produce is for the purpose of furthering my own program, the goal is not simply for my own advancement or to say "lookie I have champions", but as you point out the ultimate goal is advancement of the breed overall and to ensure a quality future for these wonderful little dogs. And they really ARE wonderful. We may not agree on some of the finer points but I do believe this underlying philosophy is similar.
And yes there is a higher purpose, but getting those final points on a bred by champion has to be the ultimate sense of accomplishment! I have pictured it in my mind many times on those nights I can't sleep, and you know I can "almost" feel it, but I am sure the reality of it would blow away the dream! Can't wait to find out! *crossing fingers*
I do hope to one day feel confident - and sure-footed - enough to handle myself but in the meantime I will enjoy watching my little ones in the ring with my friend on end of the lead ... someone who won't trip and fall and possibly injure the poor little dears! I'm no longer blacking out as I did for about a year after the last accident, but still am, and there's no other way to say this, a TOTAL klutz! The first show I attended some 4-1/2 years back rather set the tone (and this before the last round of injuries which have only made this problem worse!) ... I got out of the car, stepped onto the grounds, proceeded towards the ring where Chihuahua were to be shown, got about four feet before stepping into a hole and - bam - going down hard, flat on my face! Luckily, I didn't have a dog with me at the time, was just attending to observe and learn ... but it did leave an impression - on me AND the ground!
P.S. Jenn, do you think you will be in Phoenix in the Spring? If I am still in CA I hope to attend as it is within driving distance from where I am and I also have friends who live in the area that I could stay with which would be great as opposed to having to get a hotel room. If I'm in Louisiana by then I will likely not be able to go ...
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Originally posted by jennwhispers: That was really a good post Ratlady! And while I agree that there are many reason people do not show it serves a purpose and that is not just winning.
Dog shows (conformation events)are intended to evaluate breeding stock. The dog's conformation (overall appearance and structure), an indication of the dog's ability to produce quality puppies, is judged.
Participating in these events is a good way to see dogs in motion, possibly seek out a stud dog with the overall goal of improving the breed. To me it is one of the best ways to see what needs improvement in our breed overall and not just in our own kennels.
Likely, she has no idea you are addressing her! I highly doubt that will happen! Just a guess... I'll look up the website and post, might shed some light on this matter!
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Originally posted by jennwhispers: I would like to see them at 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 6 months of age. Is this your first litter?
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Originally posted by quest22: Is so nice to beable to read some think . that says some one on these posts really do know dogs . my opion is none of those chi will be winners . they are nice but to many flaws . The front legs on the one if moved back would show more flat foot .and gravel will not help them . Is the shoulder or lay back ok?.The withers are off you have a table toped dog .i have a female bred to a correct conformation chi hopfully ill get some think that is showable .Then ill post pictures at twelve weeks .
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"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
So, I've had a busy day! I'm almost perfect though, but unfortunately made a minor grammatical error..Thank you so much for correcting me!
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Originally posted by Henny: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Josephine: You mindless "twit"...there are many reputable breeder's on this forum, with championships! ............ QUOTE]
Blessed are the Cracked for They are The Ones Who Let in the Light.
Songs8:11
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Okay, I think the International in November is too far out for you to be asking about so I'm sure there must be an AKC show that you mean ... seems my friend and I talked about going to one coming in October ... BUT I don't see anything on InfoDog actually IN San Diego ... of course I'm reeeeeeeally REEEEEEEEEEALLY tired right now, lol
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Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's: RL if you (Or anyone else) are going to the San Diego shows could you stop by the GSP ring and take some pictures for me?
Originally posted by Ratlady: Okay, I think the International in November is too far out for you to be asking about so I'm sure there must be an AKC show that you mean ... seems my friend and I talked about going to one coming in October ... BUT I don't see anything on InfoDog actually IN San Diego ... of course I'm reeeeeeeally REEEEEEEEEEALLY tired right now, lol
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Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's: RL if you (Or anyone else) are going to the San Diego shows could you stop by the GSP ring and take some pictures for me?
MB-F is not the super they have someone else. Cant remember the name. But i know the gsp's are having a specialty. I dont know I just know ther eis a show somewher down there.
Originally posted by Josephine: Hey, here's one of the gang members! So, I've had a busy day! I'm almost perfect though, but unfortunately made a minor grammatical error..Thank you so much for correcting me!
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Originally posted by Henny: Blessed are the Cracked for They are The Ones Who Let in the Light. Songs8:11
I could care less about your grammar. I was not pointing that out. Idjut. I was referring to the part of your message and questioning the truth here.
Quit using the word "idjut" which I most definitely coined here referring to tt. Coin your own words. If you love to delve into the arhives and history here, you will note it is I who have used the word "idjut" from the beginning. I don't have a trademark on the word, I don't have a copyright on the word but reading you spew off all kinds of poop about others behaviour is enough to p*ss anybody off........then you have to use words created by others. There are a few here that do hope you don't breed by copying the likes of the company you keep.
Originally posted by Ratlady: Okay, I think the International in November is too far out for you to be asking about so I'm sure there must be an AKC show that you mean ... seems my friend and I talked about going to one coming in October ... BUT I don't see anything on InfoDog actually IN San Diego ... of course I'm reeeeeeeally REEEEEEEEEEALLY tired right now, lol
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Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's: RL if you (Or anyone else) are going to the San Diego shows could you stop by the GSP ring and take some pictures for me?
MB-F is not the super they have someone else. Cant remember the name. But i know the gsp's are having a specialty. I dont know I just know ther eis a show somewher down there.
Do they still have the Silver bay kennel club shows? I think they were in Delmar. That was the first dog show I ever went to. I was 16.
I always make Chicago.
We may not agree on some of the finer points but I do believe this underlying philosophy is similar. 
Luckily, I didn't have a dog with me at the time, was just attending to observe and learn ... but it did leave an impression - on me AND the ground! 
