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quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
Most lisenced breeders are puppymillers.
In the U.S. Julie - you should widen your horizons.
Posts: 1719 | Registered: Mon January 24 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Henny:
quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
quote:Originally posted by Henny:
Where are the Frazer Valley BackYarders this great afternoon? Is there a meeting of the "clan" somewhere that ya'll are at, that is the Swingin' Threesome who somestimes add two fellas into the program to make it a grand old BYB performance, CKC sanctioned or not?
Is it raining in the Valley and all Net resources are down and out?
Actually, yes, the Pluba site here was down. Don't you just wish I would argue with you..! Keep fishing, it won't work Henny.
One thing you gotta know Joesephine is I don't fish. I hate fishing.
If you are referring to what I asked, I asked direct questions - nothing fishy about that.
AND, I don't want to argue with you.
It seems to me that you would be a good mentor for someone who would want to learn anything in the breeding/dog world, but I guess if one's friends can't be taught anything, then one should move on. It seems fayep has not picked up one single, solitary good thing from you, and of course its apparent several did "business" with Vacarro that turned bad, so really this all leaves everyone here I am sure wondering about you.
So, indeed, you keep the Fraser Valley group together as best you can and at least we will all know where they are camped.
Henny, at this time, I cannot comment, I have no choice but to take the insinuations and harsh words without defending myself. My time will come. I will say though, I've had no dealings with either one of them in regard to dogs/cats in the capacity of buying, breeding,etc.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
I didn't realize that meant I was a puppy miller, I just have a licence for a Kennel...???Confused, please enlighten me as those are harsh words.
Most lisenced breeders are puppymillers.Not saying you are because I dont know you at all. Just telling you why they say you are one.
No, not in Canada. We are "supposed" to buy a Kennel licence when owning over X number of dogs whether we breed or not, and one must have the correct zoning and amount of property in order to obtain that licence. One can pay dog licencing fees, but the cost per dog is astronomical and the Kennel licence is cheaper although dog licences are still required, they charge only $10.00 per dog and then the Kennel Licence Fee on top of that.
It is often those that "don't" buy licences (Kennel, breeding, etc.,) that are running BYB operations and puppmills, they hide..for obvious reasons.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Henny:
quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
Most lisenced breeders are puppymillers.
In the U.S. Julie - you should widen your horizons.
Well I live in the U.S.
Posts: 2036 | Location (City, State): Somewhere in Smokey N.Calif. | Registered: Thu February 12 2004
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Julie: I agree with you on that point, but one cannot keep all the pups from planned breeding and those that are obvious pet quality are normally sold,(with conditions and contracts) but it does not a BYB or Puppymiller make!
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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All is quiet in the Fraser Valley - spooky.
Posts: 1719 | Registered: Mon January 24 2005
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I'm here now Henny, but don't know where the "Hatfields and McCoys" are...oooooooo, "bubble bubble toil and trouble"
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
Julie: I agree with you on that point, but one cannot keep all the pups from planned breeding and those that are obvious pet quality are normally sold,(with conditions and contracts) but it does not a BYB or Puppymiller make!
I also sell my pets but on limited registration with a contract and I co own all of my pups.
Posts: 2036 | Location (City, State): Somewhere in Smokey N.Calif. | Registered: Thu February 12 2004
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quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
Julie: I agree with you on that point, but one cannot keep all the pups from planned breeding and those that are obvious pet quality are normally sold,(with conditions and contracts) but it does not a BYB or Puppymiller make!
I also sell my pets but on limited registration with a contract and I co own all of my pups.
That's good for you, but I don't co own, for me it's spay or neuter only, I'm not interested in co owning no matter what the outcome may be. To each their own...
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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Does anybody know if Vacarro is showing on
July 12th and 13th? These are big events, she should be there wouldn't you think?
Posts: 1719 | Registered: Mon January 24 2005
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Vaccaro/Baller/Mooshoo/and the rest have gone missing... she may be trolling, but normally she can't resist posting.. Tooo quiet, no one knows if she's showing, but word has it probably not. 
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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quote:Does anybody know if Vacarro is showing on
July 12th and 13th? These are big events, she should be there wouldn't you think?
I thought her dogs were not registered? There is no way you can show an unregistered dog.
Posts: 16 | Registered: Tue June 13 2006
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quote:Originally posted by daisy:
quote:Does anybody know if Vacarro is showing on
July 12th and 13th? These are big events, she should be there wouldn't you think?
I thought her dogs were not registered? There is no way you can show an unregistered dog.
Classy cagey BYBs and the like register some dogs/puppies and do not register other dogs/puppies. It is a smokescreen usually for those that don't know any different, i.e. the unsuspecting buying public. Maybe a prediction can be made that Vacarro will eventually register her dogs/puppies with APR, APRI, ACR, WWKC, or the "other" CKC - all of whom are not known generally to the public. These kinds of breeders use every loophole available to them.
Posts: 1719 | Registered: Mon January 24 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
Julie: I agree with you on that point, but one cannot keep all the pups from planned breeding and those that are obvious pet quality are normally sold,(with conditions and contracts) but it does not a BYB or Puppymiller make!
I also sell my pets but on limited registration with a contract and I co own all of my pups.
That's good for you, but I don't co own, for me it's spay or neuter only, I'm not interested in co owning no matter what the outcome may be. To each their own...
So you keep them till they are old enough to be spayed?
If not how can you make sure they are spayed/nuetered later on?
Posts: 2036 | Location (City, State): Somewhere in Smokey N.Calif. | Registered: Thu February 12 2004
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BTW my contract states that if the dog is pet quality it should be nuetered/spayed.
Posts: 2036 | Location (City, State): Somewhere in Smokey N.Calif. | Registered: Thu February 12 2004
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So Do Mine...Btw, your dogs need more substance, and the brisket should reach below the elbow, hocks too straight up and down, are you selling him "pet" with your co ownership and contract....
Why you keep picking on me I'll never know, but you asked for this and you need to breed into another line.
Now, I'll post my dog, have fun finding fault.
quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
BTW my contract states that if the dog is pet quality it should be nuetered/spayed.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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I can't hold a gun to my buyer's head, I'm in Canada unlike you, we do not have the right to bare arms. But a contract to spay or neuter is registered with the CKC and that's the best I or anyone can do.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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Analyze this....Winner USA
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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What you wrote is true about some but Vac has a different method..I cannot discuss it, but I will say she won't be showing any dogs. Perhaps she will come online and defend this post. 
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Posts: 1085 | Registered: Sun December 31 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Josephine:
So Do Mine...Btw, your dogs need more substance, and the brisket should reach below the elbow, hocks too straight up and down, are you selling him "pet" with your co ownership and contract....
Why you keep picking on me I'll never know, but you asked for this and you need to breed into another line.
Now, I'll post my dog, have fun finding fault.
quote:Originally posted by VonLahrheimGSP's:
BTW my contract states that if the dog is pet quality it should be nuetered/spayed.
ROFLMAO!!! I would hope so, seeing that he is still a young puppy. If he were mature now, he'd be way over-done as an adult.
Posts: 127 | Location (City, State): Temecula CA | Registered: Mon March 26 2007
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Henny, at this time, I cannot comment, I have no choice but to take the insinuations and harsh words without defending myself. My time will come. I will say though, I've had no dealings with either one of them in regard to dogs/cats in the capacity of buying, breeding,etc. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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No, not in Canada. We are "supposed" to buy a Kennel licence when owning over X number of dogs whether we breed or not, and one must have the correct zoning and amount of property in order to obtain that licence. One can pay dog licencing fees, but the cost per dog is astronomical and the Kennel licence is cheaper although dog licences are still required, they charge only $10.00 per dog and then the Kennel Licence Fee on top of that. It is often those that "don't" buy licences (Kennel, breeding, etc.,) that are running BYB operations and puppmills, they hide..for obvious reasons. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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Well I live in the U.S. |
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Julie: I agree with you on that point, but one cannot keep all the pups from planned breeding and those that are obvious pet quality are normally sold,(with conditions and contracts) but it does not a BYB or Puppymiller make!
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All is quiet in the Fraser Valley - spooky.
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I'm here now Henny, but don't know where the "Hatfields and McCoys" are...oooooooo, "bubble bubble toil and trouble"
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I also sell my pets but on limited registration with a contract and I co own all of my pups. |
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That's good for you, but I don't co own, for me it's spay or neuter only, I'm not interested in co owning no matter what the outcome may be. To each their own... "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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Does anybody know if Vacarro is showing on
July 12th and 13th? These are big events, she should be there wouldn't you think? |
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Vaccaro/Baller/Mooshoo/and the rest have gone missing... she may be trolling, but normally she can't resist posting.. Tooo quiet, no one knows if she's showing, but word has it probably not.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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I thought her dogs were not registered? There is no way you can show an unregistered dog. |
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Classy cagey BYBs and the like register some dogs/puppies and do not register other dogs/puppies. It is a smokescreen usually for those that don't know any different, i.e. the unsuspecting buying public. Maybe a prediction can be made that Vacarro will eventually register her dogs/puppies with APR, APRI, ACR, WWKC, or the "other" CKC - all of whom are not known generally to the public. These kinds of breeders use every loophole available to them. |
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So you keep them till they are old enough to be spayed? If not how can you make sure they are spayed/nuetered later on? |
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BTW my contract states that if the dog is pet quality it should be nuetered/spayed.
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So Do Mine...Btw, your dogs need more substance, and the brisket should reach below the elbow, hocks too straight up and down, are you selling him "pet" with your co ownership and contract....
Why you keep picking on me I'll never know, but you asked for this and you need to breed into another line. Now, I'll post my dog, have fun finding fault.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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I can't hold a gun to my buyer's head, I'm in Canada unlike you, we do not have the right to bare arms. But a contract to spay or neuter is registered with the CKC and that's the best I or anyone can do.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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Analyze this....Winner USA
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss |
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What you wrote is true about some but Vac has a different method..I cannot discuss it, but I will say she won't be showing any dogs. Perhaps she will come online and defend this post.
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ROFLMAO!!! I would hope so, seeing that he is still a young puppy. If he were mature now, he'd be way over-done as an adult. |
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