Wondering if you've seen your so called "good friends" house and the way she lives? If not, maybe you should go over there and check it out before you open your mouth about Vaccaro..
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: or trashy rottie breeder, which ever applies.
Not very long ago someone had indicated that something was in the works with regard to Vaccaro. Well, something definitely has happened because Vaccaro and hubby have vacated the 'home' rather quickly. So much so that they have left behind all of their garbage, mattresses in the bedroom, even food in the frig. An old phone bill was even spotted to prove that this, indeed is where they lived, among other things.(For any of those that doubted any of my previous posts with regard to this piece of work.) Like the trees that are the back drop for every stacked photo of Vaccaro's dogs.
I receive photos from a good friend who happened to pass by Vac's house and noticed that it was all boarded up, so she felt nosy and decided to take a look. After seeing the site she returned the next day with her camera
With this link you will see photos of the supposed "heated/air conditioned kennels" that she bragged about some time ago and the "sanctuary" where her "rescue" cats were kept in. I've seen the house from the road, but nothing could have prepared me for the conditions in which her animals had to live. I had a feeling that it was bad, but had no idea it was this bad. It is no wonder that dogs in her care, have died. http://s284.photobucket.com/albums/ll14/BlackMaskRotts/
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
Originally posted by Baller: Question? If Vaccaro "actually" lived like this, why didn't the SPCA take her dogs long ago?
You can tell its the same house as on her website. In the pictures on her site it shows the bike in the background and its the same one that is in the pictures BMR put up.
Originally posted by CJK: Did she have children that lived with her, or was it just her and her husband (and the animals)?
I dont like how people only care about the animals, kids should come first no matter what. I am very very sadened thinking posibly that there were kids living in there. There was study about who would people rescue more, children being abused/neglected or dogs and dogs won. Sad
Julie, to the best of my knowledge, she had no small children living with her.
And Ball, what makes you think I haven't been to my friends house? I'm not sure who you think I'm talking about when I said a "good friend", but I highly doubt you know this person unless you happen to live in Washington and even then I know you would not have seen their house.
As far as what the SPCA is or is not doing, I can't comment to that. I have only been told that it is under investigation. The local AC is also involved as well as the CKC (and two rescue groups, I have just recently been told). Beyond that, I can't really tell you.
My biggest concern is what has happened to the dogs and cats? I am very disheartened by the possibilities.
Originally posted by Baller: I have a question for you Blackmask? Have you actually been to Vaccaro's house? If not then how do you know how she lives? Which leads me to my next question's.. she "was" friends with Fayep@telus.net. How do we know when Fayep@telus.net wasn't at Vaccaro's house she took a part of her phone bill so she could use it againest Vaccaro later?
I notice though, that you don't have a picture of the actually address of the house in all the photo's you have.. Why?
As for Vaccaro's animals, go to her house, knock on the door like an adult and ask her if you can see her dogs and cats.. I'm sure she will let you in to see them..
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Julie, to the best of my knowledge, she had no small children living with her.
And Ball, what makes you think I haven't been to my friends house? I'm not sure who you think I'm talking about when I said a "good friend", but I highly doubt you know this person unless you happen to live in Washington and even then I know you would not have seen their house.
As far as what the SPCA is or is not doing, I can't comment to that. I have only been told that it is under investigation. The local AC is also involved as well as the CKC (and two rescue groups, I have just recently been told). Beyond that, I can't really tell you.
My biggest concern is what has happened to the dogs and cats? I am very disheartened by the possibilities.
Have you actully been to her house?
I could be totally wrong, but YOU give me the impression you have, or at the very least condone her practices.
These pictures, by themselves sway my personal opinion neither way about this party., but her OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS get a huge "thumbs down" from me.
Some are here because they hope to make a difference, others like to roll around in the feces. You'll be able to "sniff them out" in no time. -DJ's Doxies,
Baller, Don't you mean to call me "Gaggy Stump"? I guess we can guess who you are.
I don't even know who this Faye person is, except for the stolen Chi rantings on this forum. Although, I feel sorry for anyone that would have any dealing with you, oh sorry, Vaccaro Rottweilers. I certainly have no sympathy for anyone who would knowingly breed unregistered mix breed dogs as was intended by giving Vaccaro her dog in the first place. As far as the pictures, no, they were not sent to me by her.
To answer your first question, YES. You were in the driveway, oooh sorry, Kathie was in the driveway....so I kept driving. There was one of the adult male rottweilers tied to a tree in the front and your car in the carport/garage covered in trash. And yes I know what the car looks like, I saw it at the Seiger show when I met Bruce.
How can you deny that this is in fact where Vaccaro lived. Regardless of the old bills found in the trash, the scenery is exactly identical to every picture posted by Vaccaro of her dogs as seen on this forum, the BBC and her own website.
Whether you are Vaccaro or not, I only hope the dogs and cats are okay and no more have to die. Your attempts to divert attention away from the wellfare of those animals only makes you look heartless and pathetic. Maybe it is you that needs to "get a grip".
You know the more I think about this, I am done. The pictures speak for themselves. I have been sucked into these little games of yours before, Kathie. I am done. Don't address me again. I won't play your game.
Originally posted by Baller: I have a question for you Blackmask? Have you ever been in Vaccaro's house? If not then how do you know how she lives? Now, for my next question? Vaccaro "was" friends with Fayep@telus.net, was she not? Well, we don't know if while Fayep@telus.net was over visting Vaccaro oneday that she didn't steal a part of her phone bill to try and use againest her later (like right now for instance).. Blackmask, just because you posted that phone bill with those photo's it doesn't mean anything. I could take a copy of your phone bill and post it with pictures if an old run down house and say you lived there to..
Do you actually have proof besides those pictures and phone bill (they mean nothing) that Vaccaro lived in that house? Maybe that was fayep@telus.net house that Vaccaro was over visiting at and they decided to take pictures of Vaccaro's dogs..
WITHOUT COLD HARD FACTS YOU HAVE NOTHING....
As for Vaccaro and the way her and her animals live, why don't you go to her house, knock on the door and ask her if you can come in and have a look.. Nah, maybe that's to mature of a thing for you to do and it would make you look to much like an adult..
Yes, I had to retype this message.. My computer froze and I had to reboot (wasn't finish what I was saying)..
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Julie, to the best of my knowledge, she had no small children living with her.
And Ball, what makes you think I haven't been to my friends house? I'm not sure who you think I'm talking about when I said a "good friend", but I highly doubt you know this person unless you happen to live in Washington and even then I know you would not have seen their house.
As far as what the SPCA is or is not doing, I can't comment to that. I have only been told that it is under investigation. The local AC is also involved as well as the CKC (and two rescue groups, I have just recently been told). Beyond that, I can't really tell you.
My biggest concern is what has happened to the dogs and cats? I am very disheartened by the possibilities.
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
That wasn't my question... My question was... Why don't you go over to Vaccaro's house, knock on her door and ask her if you can see the way her and her animals live?
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Baller, Don't you mean to call me "Gaggy Stump"? I guess we can guess who you are.
I don't even know who this Faye person is, except for the stolen Chi rantings on this forum. Although, I feel sorry for anyone that would have any dealing with you, oh sorry, Vaccaro Rottweilers. I certainly have no sympathy for anyone who would knowingly breed unregistered mix breed dogs as was intended by giving Vaccaro her dog in the first place. As far as the pictures, no, they were not sent to me by her.
To answer your first question, YES. You were in the driveway, oooh sorry, Kathie was in the driveway....so I kept driving. There was one of the adult male rottweilers tied to a tree in the front and your car in the carport/garage covered in trash. And yes I know what the car looks like, I saw it at the Seiger show when I met Bruce.
How can you deny that this is in fact where Vaccaro lived. Regardless of the old bills found in the trash, the scenery is exactly identical to every picture posted by Vaccaro of her dogs as seen on this forum, the BBC and her own website.
Whether you are Vaccaro or not, I only hope the dogs and cats are okay and no more have to die. Your attempts to divert attention away from the wellfare of those animals only makes you look heartless and pathetic. Maybe it is you that needs to "get a grip".
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
Again, those pictures mean nothing.. I don't believe she lived like that.. There is alot of homeless people in that area (ask the city of Mission how many)Did you ever stop to think that they made that mess and not Vaccaro?
Blackmask.. If you have so much hate for Vaccaro why don't you confront her at a dog show? You know face to face instead of on a stupid forum like a coward? I'm sure you will see her at a show again sometime..
If anybodies playing a game around here Blackmask, it's you..
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: You know the more I think about this, I am done. The pictures speak for themselves. I have been sucked into these little games of yours before, Kathie. I am done. Don't address me again. I won't play your game.
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
Originally posted by Baller: Do you actually have proof besides those pictures and phone bill (they mean nothing) that Vaccaro lived in that house? Maybe that was fayep@telus.net house that Vaccaro was over visiting at and they decided to take pictures of Vaccaro's dogs..
WITHOUT COLD HARD FACTS YOU HAVE NOTHING....
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
I see a lot of nonsense words being typed, but I don't see alot of circumstantial evidence being provided...
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Originally posted by highSociety: You're way off the mark there, Baller. But I can clearly see you like to misconstrue things and twist them, just like someone elese we all know..
Gotta say, your below quote in reference to the photos it pertains to, belongs right up there with gems like these:
Bill Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".
Richard Nixon: "I am not a crook".
Baller: "Without cold hard facts you have nothing".
HS
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Originally posted by Baller: Thanks for the big hello!
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Originally posted by highSociety:
HS
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Originally posted by Baller: Do you actually have proof besides those pictures and phone bill (they mean nothing) that Vaccaro lived in that house? Maybe that was fayep@telus.net house that Vaccaro was over visiting at and they decided to take pictures of Vaccaro's dogs..
WITHOUT COLD HARD FACTS YOU HAVE NOTHING....
"I have no use for stupid people!! NO STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE!!"
Hey Baller/vac..Odd thing is that no one, not even the telephone bill makes mention of the City of MISSION!!!! How'd you know where the house was located??? "Fruedian Slip perhaps?"...hmmmmmm!
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Originally posted by Baller: Again, those pictures mean nothing.. I don't believe she lived like that.. There is alot of homeless people in that area (ask the city of Mission how many)Did you ever stop to think that they made that mess and not Vaccaro?
Blackmask.. If you have so much hate for Vaccaro why don't you confront her at a dog show? You know face to face instead of on a stupid forum like a coward? I'm sure you will see her at a show again sometime..
If anybodies playing a game around here Blackmask, it's you..
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Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: You know the more I think about this, I am done. The pictures speak for themselves. I have been sucked into these little games of yours before, Kathie. I am done. Don't address me again. I won't play your game.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
Originally posted by Black Mask Rotts: Baller, Don't you mean to call me "Gaggy Stump"? I guess we can guess who you are.
I don't even know who this Faye person is, except for the stolen Chi rantings on this forum. Although, I feel sorry for anyone that would have any dealing with you, oh sorry, Vaccaro Rottweilers. I certainly have no sympathy for anyone who would knowingly breed unregistered mix breed dogs as was intended by giving Vaccaro her dog in the first place. As far as the pictures, no, they were not sent to me by her.
To answer your first question, YES. You were in the driveway, oooh sorry, Kathie was in the driveway....so I kept driving. There was one of the adult male rottweilers tied to a tree in the front and your car in the carport/garage covered in trash. And yes I know what the car looks like, I saw it at the Seiger show when I met Bruce.
How can you deny that this is in fact where Vaccaro lived. Regardless of the old bills found in the trash, the scenery is exactly identical to every picture posted by Vaccaro of her dogs as seen on this forum, the BBC and her own website.
Whether you are Vaccaro or not, I only hope the dogs and cats are okay and no more have to die. Your attempts to divert attention away from the wellfare of those animals only makes you look heartless and pathetic. Maybe it is you that needs to "get a grip".
I have no opinion of anything here except to say: Where is the carport that you refer to?
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Originally posted by Baller: Do you actually have proof besides those pictures and phone bill (they mean nothing) that Vaccaro lived in that house?
A phone bill is legal proof of residence. The pictures show trees in the background consistant with photos Vacarro Rottweilers has posted on on this forum and her website. For you to infer anything different is ludicrous.
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Originally posted by Baller: Maybe that was fayep@telus.net house that Vaccaro was over visiting at and they decided to take pictures of Vaccaro's dogs..
Why would Vaccaro's dogs be at fayep@telus' house?
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Originally posted by Baller: As for Vaccaro and the way her and her animals live, why don't you go to her house, knock on the door and ask her if you can come in and have a look..
Clearly nobody is home. The pictures show a rather hasty exit sometime in the past several weeks. Those photos are of Vaccaro Rottweilers' home and they are a complete disgrace.
Anyone performing a Google or Yahoo search will come upon this thread and decide for themselves the caliber of person whom would force their breeding stock to live in such squalor. Not to mention their loving pets.
Originally posted by Baller: Again, those pictures mean nothing.. I don't believe she lived like that.. There is alot of homeless people in that area (ask the city of Mission how many)Did you ever stop to think that they made that mess and not Vaccaro?
So you now admit these awful photos are of Vaccaro Rottweiler's house. Thank you for confirming the authenticity of this location. Though Blackmask did not give the city name, you are adding information that this house is located in the city of Mission?
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Originally posted by Baller: Blackmask.. If you have so much hate for Vaccaro why don't you confront her at a dog show? You know face to face instead of on a stupid forum like a coward? I'm sure you will see her at a show again sometime..
Considering Vaccaro Rottweilers has said for a long time she will attend AKC dog shows, yet never shows up or even enters, your proposed meeting may be a long way off. To show in AKC, the dogs need to be registered with AKC. Vaccaro Rottweilers seems to have problems just getting registered within CKC let alone AKC.
The entire situation sickens me as a lifelong animal lover of all types. Baller confirmed the house photos are indeed of Vaccaro Rottweilers' home. But they suggest squatters or transients let the mess.
When is the last time you saw squatters use dog crates? Cat scratching posts? 50 pound bags of Friskies? A large decorative dog bowl as well as several metal ones? Dog fleece toys? Put shavings down in a home-made dog pen? Buy salad dressing only to leave it in a fridge? I will stop there.
Unless some homeless people with a large amount of dogs and cats took over this house, I don't see this as a viable possibility. Whomever did last live in that house has several pets. No one buys that large a bag of cat food unless they have alot of cats to feed. There are no cats hanging around in those photos. So they definitely were not ferals being fed by a transient.
Baller, allegedly, Vaccaro has rented a bigger house(which is up for sale) with an underground garage, where, once again "allegedly" the dogs and possibly cats are being kept. Have you any idea how the ventilation/heat/air conditioning is in that garage area?? If so, please let us know. Is there any fencing? Runs for the dogs?? You seem to know quite a lot about Vaccaro, so please, share the information. ----------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by Baller: As for Vaccaro and the way her and her animals live, why don't you go to her house, knock on the door and ask her if you can come in and have a look..
Clearly nobody is home. The pictures show a rather hasty exit sometime in the past several weeks. Those photos are of Vaccaro Rottweilers' home and they are a complete disgrace.
Anyone performing a Google or Yahoo search will come upon this thread and decide for themselves the caliber of person whom would force their breeding stock to live in such squalor. Not to mention their loving pets.[/QUOTE]
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