PD, you either didnt read, or didnt begin to comprehend what I said.

You believe as you do, and I wont fight with you about it because your clearly not enlightened as to your religions history.

I have already learned quite a bit from you and I thankyou for that. One of the things you have taught me is that I can not , no matter how frustrated, force anyone to choose happyness for themself.

Take care of yourself Linda because what you think and the emotions you allow yourself to dwell on, can and may manifest themselves physically.

PD, you either didnt read, or didnt begin to comprehend what I said.
You believe as you do, and I wont fight with you about it because your clearly not enlightened as to your religions history.
I have already learned quite a bit from you and I thankyou for that. One of the things you have taught me is that I can not , no matter how frustrated, force anyone to choose happyness for themself.
Take care of yourself Linda because what you think and the emotions you allow yourself to dwell on, can and may manifest themselves physically. (Answer)I understand you completely Jennifer you believe that Gays should have the right to get married. I know you
Also believe that Christians are the causes of many deaths you think you leaned from me, you just assume things Jennifer I know you are not happy with yourself if that was the case why bother debunking what I am saying just let it go if you are so happy with your life!

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My gay friend, who is happily going out with her girlfriend, wrote this WONDERFUL persuasive paper for school about why gay marriages should be allowed. She had many good points. I would post it here, but I do not want people bashing things that she says because I would take it into high offense. But I just thought Id say, she has some good valid points in her paper. Valid points that Im sure you could find in any gay marriage argument. You guys that dont believe in gay marriage should really take into account what gay people have to say about it, there side of the story. My friend goes to church almost every Sunday with her grandmother. Even though yes God did not intend for same sex marriage, you christians should really not go judging on what gay people want to do with THEIR LIVES, it is exactly that, THEIR LIVES, THEIR SINS, let them live with that. Do not judge them. Do not stop their happiness with their partner because you want to make sure everyone is perfect and does not decieve God, worry about yourself, worry about your sins that you probably make everyday!

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Marriage between a MAN AND A WOMAN is ordained of GOD. The family is central to the Creators's plan for the eternal destiny of His children.

The FIRST COMMANDMENT that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as HUSBAND AND WIFE.

God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

God has COMMANDED that the SACRED powers of procreation are to be employed only between a MAN AND A WOMAN, lawfully wedded as HUSBAND AND WIFE.

Children are ENTITLED to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a FATHER AND A MOTHER who honor marital vows with complete fidelity.

Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

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God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

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Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?

I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?

Just ask her dogs - believe me - she is multiplying......

Good one lhasa

If I didn't say it, someone else would have.

Children are ENTITLED to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a FATHER AND A MOTHER who honor marital vows with complete fidelity.
SHere is a question I have been thinking about. Say, a woman had a sex change operation and became a man and a man had a sex change operation and became a woman. They get married because they were opposite sexes.If neither could produce children, would it be a sin if they adopted one and raised him/her as 2 parents? Or if the man, before he had the surgery, had sperm frozen and used a surrogate woman..how would you see that? I am not baiting-I really want to understand where you draw the line....

Rose, why did you delete your post?? That is really childish of you. You seem to have way too much time on your hands...

She typed something like, mck, Im glad you could join , stay awhile ( sorry not exact wording ) It was just being her lil cocky self, so I dont understand why she wouldnt have left it up.

Whisper still this is coming from a minister's wife? what is the name of your church so I know not to go there if your church believes it is ok that two men can marry or two woman can..I just watch a program where this peacher said that the devil gets his followers from church I will try to make it short.It is a stomy halloween night this guy was dress as a devil. his car breaks down. the man sees a church with lights on he runs in the church and people in the church screams and runs out the door, except one old lady she went up to the man in the devil suit and said "master I have been a follower of yours for 40 years give me more time I will have them all converted.I laught at this story then thought when Jesse Duplantis said yes the devil can walk in a church and gather his follower. this is sad

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Originally posted by Susie:
My gay friend, who is happily going out with her girlfriend, wrote this WONDERFUL persuasive paper for school about why gay marriages should be allowed. She had many good points. I would post it here, but I do not want people bashing things that she says because I would take it into high offense. But I just thought Id say, she has some good valid points in her paper. Valid points that Im sure you could find in any gay marriage argument. You guys that dont believe in gay marriage should really take into account what gay people have to say about it, there side of the story. My friend goes to church almost every Sunday with her grandmother. Even though yes God did not intend for same sex marriage, you christians should really not go judging on what gay people want to do with THEIR LIVES, it is exactly that, THEIR LIVES, THEIR SINS, let them live with that. Do not judge them. Do not stop their happiness with their partner because you want to make sure everyone is perfect and does not decieve God, worry about yourself, worry about your sins that you probably make everyday!

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My gut is just churning from posts similar to this one.

Marriage between a MAN AND A WOMAN is ordained of GOD. The family is central to the Creators's plan for the eternal destiny of His children.

The FIRST COMMANDMENT that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as HUSBAND AND WIFE.

God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

God has COMMANDED that the SACRED powers of procreation are to be employed only between a MAN AND A WOMAN, lawfully wedded as HUSBAND AND WIFE.

Children are ENTITLED to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a FATHER AND A MOTHER who honor marital vows with complete fidelity.

Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

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I think the world is in a sad state too rose, but I think so because a gay person's views can't even be put on a flippin message board without unemployed idiots jumping all over it saying how disgusting it is that people fall in love. Isn't *THAT* afterall the REAL thing 'god' is looking for? LOVE? Would you rather a heterosexual couple marry and abuse each other and one get killed than just let the people be happy? Rose, you are in NO way perfect, so fix up your mistakes before you try to correct others'.

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God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

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Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?

I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?

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I stated a LONG time ago that maybe, just maybe, she sinned, and 'god' punished her by not allowing her to have kids. (I mean, look how she treats her dogs, would you want a kid to go through that?)

Kerack that was very mean to say to a person about not being able to have children! Before you say something to me... I am not taken up for rose but that was very mean

I thought all this was over in October.
Did anyone miss me?

I thought it was too Tulisha, I just think lately that Rose is trying to make it on the "Most Popular Threads" for the stats this month, really, I truly think that because look at the thread with her yorkie, you know she didnt start it for the soul purpose of showing off her yorkie ( which he is just a doll ). She started it to add in that she is getting two females, and she KNEW someone would ask about breeding and start bashing. She loves the attention....

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God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

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Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?

I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?

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I stated a LONG time ago that maybe, just maybe, she sinned, and 'god' punished her by not allowing her to have kids. (I mean, look how she treats her dogs, would you want a kid to go through that?)

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Kerack,
You could really be hurting someone by saying that. Is that your intention here, to hurt someone?

I will say this: God doesn't PUNISH people by not allowing them to have kids. Some people cannot have kids for various reasons physically and others simply do not choose to have them. It's not very nice to pick on people because they cannot or do not have children, even if you don't like that person. If it were me and I was the meanest SOB in the country, but I couldn't have kids, I would be greatly hurt by someone whom I don't actually know making remarks about me not having kids.

I'm not reprimanding you Kerack, I'm just wondering why you would say such a thing? Words can be very hurtful to others even on a message board. Sometimes they even come back to bite one in the behind.

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God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

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Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?

I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?

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I have no idea if Rose has children and since no one knows who Rose is no one really knows if she has children or not. But no of course God would not punish someone by not giving them children, no more than God would punish someone for being homosexual. I simply want to point out that some married heterosexual couples do not multiply and give birth to children year after year after year. If a heterosexual couple is not producing children how is that differant from a homosexual couple that is not producing children ? Rose's entire aurgument seems to be that God commanded us to multiply therefore homosexuality is wrong. Well I got news for you Rose LOTS of people are not listening to the commandment to multiply.

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God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.

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Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?

I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?

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I have no idea if Rose has children and since no one knows who Rose is no one really knows if she has children or not. But no of course God would not punish someone by not giving them children, no more than God would punish someone for being homosexual. I simply want to point out that some married heterosexual couples do not multiply and give birth to children year after year after year. If a heterosexual couple is not producing children how is that differant from a homosexual couple that is not producing children ? Rose's entire aurgument seems to be that God commanded us to multiply therefore homosexuality is wrong. Well I got news for you Rose LOTS of people are not listening to the commandment to multiply.

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mck,
You are mislead if you believe that God will not punish the homosexuals. God said punishment will be death for those who are gay (IF THEY DO NOT REPENT AND FORSAKE SUCH BEHAVIOR)

If you will open your Bible and go to The New Testament, find Romans Chapter One and read Verses 26-32 you will read what God has to say about homosexuality ( Along with several other sins)

In fact here is is, I will quote from the Bible for those who do not have their Bible handy, or do not have a Bible.

Romans Chapter One Verses 26-32

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in thenselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient:

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness: full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

WHO KNOWING THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD, THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, NOT ONLY DO THE SAME, BUT HAVE PLEASURE IN THEM THAT DO THEM.

(But have pleasure in them that do them.........that would include those who are in full support of gay marriage, whether they themselves be gay or not.)

"You are mislead if you believe that God will not punish the homosexuals. God said punishment will be death for those who are gay" Quote by Rose

Hey, I'm not getting into this mess, but that's inaccurate. We are ALL going to die, gay or straight or confused! WE ALL GET THE DEATH SENTENCE! (Sorry to burst your bubble)

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"You are mislead if you believe that God will not punish the homosexuals. God said punishment will be death for those who are gay" Quote by Rose

Hey, I'm not getting into this mess, but that's inaccurate. We are ALL going to die, gay or straight or confused! WE ALL GET THE DEATH SENTENCE! (Sorry to burst your bubble)

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I think she means "spiritual death".