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Originally posted by Tulisha:
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Originally posted by Kerack:
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Originally posted by mck:
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Originally posted by Rose:
God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force.
Rose I am curious, though of course none of my business. You have been married longer than nine months I assume. Are you obeying Gods commandment and giving birth and multiplying ? If you have been married five years I would guess you have five children ? or ten years ten children ?
I would think that if you are not giving birth and multiplying how would you be any differant from a gay couple who do not multiply ?
I stated a LONG time ago that maybe, just maybe, she sinned, and 'god' punished her by not allowing her to have kids. (I mean, look how she treats her dogs, would you want a kid to go through that?)
Kerack,
You could really be hurting someone by saying that. Is that your intention here, to hurt someone?
I will say this: God doesn't PUNISH people by not allowing them to have kids. Some people cannot have kids for various reasons physically and others simply do not choose to have them. It's not very nice to pick on people because they cannot or do not have children, even if you don't like that person. If it were me and I was the meanest SOB in the country, but I couldn't have kids, I would be greatly hurt by someone whom I don't actually know making remarks about me not having kids.
I'm not reprimanding you Kerack, I'm just wondering why you would say such a thing? Words can be very hurtful to others even on a message board. Sometimes they even come back to bite one in the behind.
Tulisha, I stat&d that so that ros& vvould op&n h&r mind. SH& is th& on& 'd&ci&ving god' by not having childr&n. Unl&ss, sinc& sh&'s so absorb&d in this 'god' thing (I don't disr&sp&ct p&opl& that b&li&v&, just hippocrit&s) th&n I should giv& my point of vi&vv. I m&an, most p&opl& b&li&v& that &v&rything has a r&ason, so th&r&'s a r&ason I through out th&r& for h&r! This ros& p&rson is not a christian. At l&ast, sh& do&sn't act lik& on&. Sh& brings up christian stuff vvh&n it's in h&r favor.
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Exceptional Pluba
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Originally posted by Tanya:
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mck,
You are mislead if you believe that God will not punish the homosexuals. God said punishment will be death for those who are gay (IF THEY DO NOT REPENT AND FORSAKE SUCH BEHAVIOR)
If you will open your Bible and go to The New Testament, find Romans Chapter One and read Verses 26-32 you will read what God has to say about homosexuality ( Along with several other sins)
In fact here is is, I will quote from the Bible for those who do not have their Bible handy, or do not have a Bible.
Romans Chapter One Verses 26-32
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in thenselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient:
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness: full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
WHO KNOWING THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD, THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, NOT ONLY DO THE SAME, BUT HAVE PLEASURE IN THEM THAT DO THEM.
(But have pleasure in them that do them.........that would include those who are in full support of gay marriage, whether they themselves be gay or not.)
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Everytime I see this type of bigotry it reminds me of this letter to Dr Laura so if I could Rose where ever it has question could you just answer it for those of us that want to know????
J. Kent Ashcraft
May 2000
Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.
[This message was edited by Tanya on Thu March 18 2004 at 10:51 PM.][/QUOTE]
Tanya, I just hav& to say this, I LOV& YOU! Lol. I couldn't h&lp but k&&p on laughing at that post.
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Tanya, that is absolutely priceless. I just emailed it to my Pastor - he'll love it! 
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Newba Pluba
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Oh my Goodness this thread had gone way out there.
*Home is where the heart is!*
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What do'es your religious views have to do with a Civil Ceremony ? If your church, temple, mosque or whatever do'snt want same sex unions then do not perform them.
Why anyone thinks their religious views should have ANY impact on the entire population of the United States, which by the way is not only Christians but full of many many differant religions and belief systems, is the most arrogant and bigoted thing I have ever heard.
To aurgue that a civil law should not be passed because of YOUR religious views is arrogant and bigoted. Who cares what YOUR religion believes NOT everyone in the United States is the same religion.
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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
jennifer man can legalize same sex marriages all they want! that does not over ride the LORD'S law or his words it even states this in the bible same sex marriages or unions is forbidden.
Linda, I would support you totally to believe that same sex marriage is forbidden by your religion. I would never want anyone to tell your church that you had to perform same sex marriage ceromonies. If same sex marriage is allowed by civil law I think you are right, it will mean nothing to your religious views and I would fight to defend your right to believe in your chosen religion.
I also will fight for others not to have to live under your religious laws or restrictions.
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The plain and simple fact is that God put us here with the ability to CHOOSE. We can CHOOSE to be whatever we want, we can CHOOSE to worship whatever we want, we can CHOOSE to love whomever we want. We live with our CHOICES - good and bad.
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Exceptional Pluba
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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
And yes God gave you a will to do as you please worship as you want. But in the end you will answer for everything you had done or allow to be done.
Well said Linda.
"Be Civil, Or Be Gone." (Quote By Moderator Extraordinaire)
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Tanya
why are you joking about Gods words ?
God gives you a will to make choices as I said before. but in the end you shall answer for your choices.
Very Good Pluba
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wait a minute, isnt Tony in a same sex marriage? lol sorry couldnt resist just popping off once,, only kiddin linda. 
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I am sorry you feel the need to say that my husband is a woman (HE is a real man)which you might be confussed since you had never seen or had a real man to tell the difference
Very Good Pluba
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No actually it was the other way around you stud, lol but Im glad you took it in the joking manner I meant it to be. 
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Jennifer I am glad you thought of me as a man now where did the other head go LMAO
Very Good Pluba
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Dohhhhh! 
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Exceptional Pluba
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Originally posted by Rose:
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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
And yes God gave you a will to do as you please worship as you want. But in the end you will answer for everything you had done or allow to be done.
Well said Linda.
Y&s, vv&ll said. Novv l&t thos& p&opl& d&al vvith 'god'. It hasn't anything to do vvith you p&opl&.
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<Passion Wolf>
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Tanya the question should be, why is it that when a person stands up and say this is not Gods will? Also show the proof that it is not Gods will. why do you or the others try to debunk the truth by saying this > (Why do some insist on picking certain words of Gods law while ignoring others?) My question to you is ,What makes you think God is ok with Gay marriages?
<Passion Wolf>
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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
Tanya the question should be, why is it when a person stands up and say this is not Gods will! Also showing the proof that it is not Gods will, why do you or the others try to debunk the truth by saying this > ( _Why do some insist on picking certain words of Gods law while ignoring others? _) My question to you is ,What makes you think God is ok with Gay marriages?
Exceptional Pluba
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Originally posted by Purfect Dream:
Tanya the question should be, why is it that when a person stands up and say this is not Gods will? Also show the proof that it is not Gods will. why do you or the others try to debunk the truth by saying this > (_Why do some insist on picking certain words of Gods law while ignoring others?_) My question to you is ,What makes you think God is ok with Gay marriages?
PD, no one said 'god' was ok with it! But are you god? No. Is rose god? No. So what does it matter if different people are sinning and going against god? You're not god, 'god' wouldn't deal with it the way that you guys would, so why don't you butt out and let the gay couples and 'god' deal with it? You are the ones disrespecting 'god' by trying to act like you are just as high and noble as he.
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Kerack
Never once Did I said I was god! I just know by what I was taught by my minsters and what I read in my bible what God thinks is right and wrong!if you know something is wrong and allow it! Then you are just as guilty < sp as the person that is committing the offence!Kerack You are Young and really don't know your world as of yet! I am 36 years old and I pray to live a long time but I do not wish to see Gay marriages be legalize in America . My point is the Goverment can't tell you who you can or can't sleep with but I don't want to see Gay marriages nor do I want Gay marriages force down my throat ..
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quote: Tulisha, I stat&d that so that ros& vvould op&n h&r mind. SH& is th& on& 'd&ci&ving god' by not having childr&n. Unl&ss, sinc& sh&'s so absorb&d in this 'god' thing (I don't disr&sp&ct p&opl& that b&li&v&, just hippocrit&s) th&n I should giv& my point of vi&vv. I m&an, most p&opl& b&li&v& that &v&rything has a r&ason, so th&r&'s a r&ason I through out th&r& for h&r! This ros& p&rson is not a christian. At l&ast, sh& do&sn't act lik& on&. Sh& brings up christian stuff vvh&n it's in h&r favor. |
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quote: ************************************************* Everytime I see this type of bigotry it reminds me of this letter to Dr Laura so if I could Rose where ever it has question could you just answer it for those of us that want to know???? J. Kent Ashcraft May 2000 Dear Dr. Laura, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them. a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself? f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die? i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your devoted disciple and adoring fan. [This message was edited by Tanya on Thu March 18 2004 at 10:51 PM.][/QUOTE] Tanya, I just hav& to say this, I LOV& YOU! Lol. I couldn't h&lp but k&&p on laughing at that post. |
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Tanya, that is absolutely priceless. I just emailed it to my Pastor - he'll love it! |
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Oh my Goodness this thread had gone way out there.*Home is where the heart is!* |
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What do'es your religious views have to do with a Civil Ceremony ? If your church, temple, mosque or whatever do'snt want same sex unions then do not perform them.
Why anyone thinks their religious views should have ANY impact on the entire population of the United States, which by the way is not only Christians but full of many many differant religions and belief systems, is the most arrogant and bigoted thing I have ever heard. To aurgue that a civil law should not be passed because of YOUR religious views is arrogant and bigoted. Who cares what YOUR religion believes NOT everyone in the United States is the same religion. |
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quote: Linda, I would support you totally to believe that same sex marriage is forbidden by your religion. I would never want anyone to tell your church that you had to perform same sex marriage ceromonies. If same sex marriage is allowed by civil law I think you are right, it will mean nothing to your religious views and I would fight to defend your right to believe in your chosen religion. I also will fight for others not to have to live under your religious laws or restrictions. |
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The plain and simple fact is that God put us here with the ability to CHOOSE. We can CHOOSE to be whatever we want, we can CHOOSE to worship whatever we want, we can CHOOSE to love whomever we want. We live with our CHOICES - good and bad.
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quote: Well said Linda. "Be Civil, Or Be Gone." (Quote By Moderator Extraordinaire) |
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wait a minute, isnt Tony in a same sex marriage? lol sorry couldnt resist just popping off once,, only kiddin linda.
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No actually it was the other way around you stud, lol but Im glad you took it in the joking manner I meant it to be.
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quote: PD, no one said 'god' was ok with it! But are you god? No. Is rose god? No. So what does it matter if different people are sinning and going against god? You're not god, 'god' wouldn't deal with it the way that you guys would, so why don't you butt out and let the gay couples and 'god' deal with it? You are the ones disrespecting 'god' by trying to act like you are just as high and noble as he. |
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Never once Did I said I was god! I just know by what I was taught by my minsters and what I read in my bible what God thinks is right and wrong!if you know something is wrong and allow it! Then you are just as guilty < sp as the person that is committing the offence!Kerack You are Young and really don't know your world as of yet! I am 36 years old and I pray to live a long time but I do not wish to see Gay marriages be legalize in America . My point is the Goverment can't tell you who you can or can't sleep with but I don't want to see Gay marriages nor do I want Gay marriages force down my throat .. |
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